The biggest problem for the Russians is that they still have too much older stuff.Hell no.
Pay 300 mil for few upgrades and get 100 planes for free is pretty much a giveaway. Times of socialist friendship are over...
It is hard to justify making PAK-FAs when they have hundreds of perfectly good aircraft in storage not being used.
The prices I have seen for the basic SMT upgrade are about $6.5 million per aircraft. This makes the aircraft 40% cheaper to operate and gives it air to ground capability as well as expanding air to air capability with R-77 missiles, extra fuel for longer range etc. I would expect a $20 million dollar per aircraft, upgraded to SMT standard offer would use up old airframes in stock and provide a base for parts sales and weapons sales for the future.
It is better to do this than have hundreds of aircraft sitting wasting away in storage with no future. It also means that if the Russian AF wants new aircraft they can be new builds instead of upgrades, which is good for the aircraft building industry.
If they buy 100 planes at $20 million per aircraft then the Russian AF can use that $2 billion dollars to pay for however many Mig-35s that will buy... maybe 50... maybe more.
Can anybody tell me what those two white circular things near the tail are? I see them on nearly every russian helo.
Play DCS Black Shark. The circular things are Doppler radar sensors for the speed and drift indicator. The radar altimeter is a separate device and uses another two sensors. On the Ka-52 photo from below posted on the previous page, you can see them as small gray squares just aft of each main landing gear bay. Usually, the were painted round and red. Example: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russi...1fab902d5ccd09
Also note that 063 does not actually carry the missile warning nor jamming sensors. I'm not sure they will be included on serial production airframes, either. I think Kamov is just building space for them into the fuselage for possible future upgrade.
He just means they don't have all their operational equipment fitted yet. These are not full production aircraft. Some photos show little turrets near the landing gear. These are part of the DIRCM suite and have not been fully integrated with the aircraft yet. The wingtip countermeasure launchers and sensors are fitted.If you are right, then that just doesnt make any sense. How could you make such a impressive and expensive military hardware in 2009 and not equip it with the neccessary tool to succeed. That's a shame.
No, I mean as he understood. (or rather ) I am doubting that operational Ka-52s will be equipped with the plume detection sensors and the DIRCM turrets. It makes as much sense as operational Mi-28Ns missing any flare dispensers or RWR equipment, but yet they do. These things may be fitted at a later time, but don't appear to be the current production standard. We already know the Mi-28N is supposed to be further upgraded to the Mi-28NM standard, which is where the radar will hopefully finally be installed, together with the wingtip pods. The Ka-52 is not yet finalized for production, but IMHO the defensive systems in question are simply not being purchased by the military at this point. In his blog, "Pilot" indicated that 063 is the production standard for government trials.
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There are not many Mi-24PNs out there.