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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Mitch View Post
    October 28th, Russian marines in Aleksandroupoli, Greece

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=DIMnizsfRoc#
    Great video. Thx man! Good to see ppl welcoming them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmatian28 View Post
    instead we got repackaged AK-74
    oh wow i don't see any "repackaged ak-74 here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmatian28 View Post
    How is this improvement?

    There is nothing that this AK's can do that AK -47 can't deliver. I was hoping to see more powerful munition with less recoil or some type of laser devices .... instead we got repackaged AK-74. In Bosnia nobody wanted to use AK-74 since their munition was a joke! Most of the soldiers thought that 7.62 was a minimum. When you fight street battles you want to be able to take out targets behind brick wall and accuracy wasn't your primary concern. Things happen so quickly that you almost never had a time to aim so all these more accurate AK's will be traded in for AK-47 after first battle. These days when almost all armies are buying armor and acoustic fire locators... these AK's are yesterday's technology!!! I wish that they have modified munition so that it has more range, ability to penetrate Kevlar armor more easily and hide its sound signature so that new acoustic devices can't figure out where the bullet is coming from.
    Advantage of AK-74 is lower recoil, better bullet ballistics, and the ability to carry more bullets since they are lighter than the 7.62x39mm of the AK-47. AK-47 has advantages though, I read that FSB troops in Chechnya sometimes prefer it for operations inside cities/buildings. But for general army I think AK-74 is better in almost every way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunman View Post

    "SPM-3 Bear"
    is right for the VPK-3924 Medved ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmatian28 View Post
    How is this improvement?

    There is nothing that this AK's can do that AK -47 can't deliver. I was hoping to see more powerful munition with less recoil or some type of laser devices .... instead we got repackaged AK-74. In Bosnia nobody wanted to use AK-74 since their munition was a joke! Most of the soldiers thought that 7.62 was a minimum. When you fight street battles you want to be able to take out targets behind brick wall and accuracy wasn't your primary concern. Things happen so quickly that you almost never had a time to aim so all these more accurate AK's will be traded in for AK-47 after first battle. These days when almost all armies are buying armor and acoustic fire locators... these AK's are yesterday's technology!!! I wish that they have modified munition so that it has more range, ability to penetrate Kevlar armor more easily and hide its sound signature so that new acoustic devices can't figure out where the bullet is coming from.
    You posted pictures of ukrainian produced clones of the weapons. they don't connected with Russian MoD or MIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forestier View Post
    Russia is not involved in armed conflicts justifying the use of MRAPs now. “Under-bottom” IEDs are rarely used in the current sporadic clashes in Chechnya and Dagestan, exchange of fire occurs more often just as off-road blasts of mine-strewn cars etc. It is not Afghanistan or Iraq.


    One should keep in mind that MRAPs are highly specialized “militarized police” vehicles which are useless for a normal regular army. High resistibility to “under-bottom” IEDs is paid by high center of gravity and high silhouette and, therefore, inferior protection against bullets and RPG (within the same weight limitation) and inferior cross-country ability (as a result of worse lateral stability etc.). But road under-bottom high-explosive IEDs are insignificant danger in regular warfare; as regards the usual anti-tank contact mines, the standard APCs (incl. ubiquitous BTR-80) provide quite adequate protection.
    MRAPS are designed to replace older less protective light weight vehicles. Just like the M-ATV replaced the Humvee and the Tigr replacing the UAZ. You're confusing yourself trying to lump APCs and patrol vehicles in the same class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token White Guy View Post
    MRAPS are designed to replace older less protective light weight vehicles. Just like the M-ATV replaced the Humvee and the Tigr replacing the UAZ. You're confusing yourself trying to lump APCs and patrol vehicles in the same class.
    I confuse nothing. MRAPs can not replace APCs in army exactly because they are vehicles of different purpose (even if the similar weight and cost class). APCs are vehicles for regular mechanized warfare against comparable adversaries, MRAPs are patrol vehicles for low-intensity counter-insurgency campaigns. By the way, this is meant by the designation SPM-3 itself: SPM is an abbreviation from “special police machine/vehicle”.


    As the Russian army is not engaged in low-intensity counter-insurgency campaigns of Iraq/Afghanistan type now, but still oriented towards regular mechanized warfare of “classical type”, it purchases and develops APCs and not MRAPs. Within the Russian structure of armed forces MRAPs are intended for “interior troops” (MVD troops). But even they don’t feel keen necessity of such specialized vehicles now and manage with cheaper armored trucks for a while.

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    October 31, 2011. TV Zvezda. Russia, Moscow. The last training session, before the parade on November 7, devoted to the parade of 1941.


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    October 31, 2011. TV Zvezda. Russia, Vladivostok. Training of submariners of rescue activities in the crash of the submarine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forestier View Post
    I confuse nothing. MRAPs can not replace APCs in army exactly because they are vehicles of different purpose (even if the similar weight and cost class). APCs are vehicles for regular mechanized warfare against comparable adversaries, MRAPs are patrol vehicles for low-intensity counter-insurgency campaigns. By the way, this is meant by the designation SPM-3 itself: SPM is an abbreviation from “special police machine/vehicle”.


    As the Russian army is not engaged in low-intensity counter-insurgency campaigns of Iraq/Afghanistan type now, but still oriented towards regular mechanized warfare of “classical type”, it purchases and develops APCs and not MRAPs. Within the Russian structure of armed forces MRAPs are intended for “interior troops” (MVD troops). But even they don’t feel keen necessity of such specialized vehicles now and manage with cheaper armored trucks for a while.

    Thanks for finally answering my question. Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forestier View Post
    As the Russian army is not engaged in low-intensity counter-insurgency campaigns of Iraq/Afghanistan type now, but still oriented towards regular mechanized warfare of “classical type”, it purchases and develops APCs and not MRAPs. Within the Russian structure of armed forces MRAPs are intended for “interior troops” (MVD troops). But even they don’t feel keen necessity of such specialized vehicles now and manage with cheaper armored trucks for a while.
    (on the rights of advertising) Propose to Your attention a reportage Vitaly Kuzmin from the testing ground Bronnitsy.

    http://vitalykuzmin.net/?q=node/369



    Most of these machines were created ON ORDER of ARMY, because BTR-80 and unarmoured Kamaz and Ural - do not correspond to the realities of warfare.
    In military units, this machinery, for the time being, no... (I mean - "platform Tayfun")
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raden5 View Post
    because BTR-80 and unarmoured Kamaz and Ural - do not correspond to the realities of warfare.
    Not anymore that is

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    More navy stuff, this is a close-up to the Ak-230 twin 30mm turret.


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    The first Russian reconnaissance aircraft upgraded A-50 is already on alert
    http://www.1tv.ru/news/techno/189797

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzerknacker View Post
    More navy stuff, this is a close-up to the Ak-230 twin 30mm turret.

    Smolny class training ship if I am correct








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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindshadow View Post
    The first Russian reconnaissance aircraft upgraded A-50 is already on alert
    http://www.1tv.ru/news/techno/189797
    Inside A-50 upgraded


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