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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexMartin View Post
    It looks too big. Will be very difficult to camouflage it. Shilka/Tunguska is much smaller.
    The Tunguska should still be around, and might even be modernized also?

    Tracked vehicles do have their advantages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheArmenian View Post
    It has to be bigger, the missiles have twice the range of Tunguska's and the radars are more powerfull.
    Well not really. Wheeled chassis, which was Arabs' requirement, itself is twice the length of combat module and unlike armored chassis it's size is directly proportional to load it's designed to carry. Army version will definitely use tracked platform (It's the army thing-they want it to keep up with tanks and have general compatibility with Tunguska, Tor and Buk) Here is some prototype info:
    http://btvt.narod.ru/5/Panzir/panzir.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear_Warrior View Post
    PTB-3000 is still there, me wonders where they flew

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    Quote Originally Posted by K-5 View Post
    Well not really. Wheeled chassis, which was Arabs' requirement, itself is twice the length of combat module and unlike armored chassis it's size is directly proportional to load it's designed to carry. Army version will definitely use tracked platform (It's the army thing-they want it to keep up with tanks and have general compatibility with Tunguska, Tor and Buk) Here is some prototype info:
    http://btvt.narod.ru/5/Panzir/panzir.htm
    Wheres the tracking radar? I only see a search radar.
    Also, if you watch this video, you'll see the Pantsir on a tracked BMP-3 chassis which is fairly compact:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6834993Posg

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    Quote Originally Posted by void View Post
    Wheres the tracking radar? I only see a search radar.
    Also, if you watch this video, you'll see the Pantsir on a tracked BMP-3 chassis which is fairly compact:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6834993Posg
    Yeah, no tracker there they probably hurried it to the exhibition.
    It is GM-59XX universal platform which is not BMP-3 derivative.

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    It looks too big. Will be very difficult to camouflage it. Shilka/Tunguska is much smaller.
    Its purpose is to defend fixed sites like an S-300/-400 SAM site or an airfield or HQ/Comms centre. It will be stationary for most of its time on operation and every time it fires no camo on earth will hide its position.

    Tunguska is designed to defend things that move like armoured units. All versions can fire on the move but above shelterised version on truck is less likely too.

    But I still have my doubts about this combination. Are PBS-1 and AKS74U usable together? I read something about diferent threads in AK74 (were PBS-1 is intended to be used) and AKS74U when their flashfiders are removed, but maybe adapters could solve that problem, couldn't they. Please help!
    It is my understanding that all AKs have the same threading so that the same standard items can be attached. If you look carefully at an AK-74 you will see it has two bayonet lugs for example. This is because the new muzzle device makes the standard lug position too far back so a new lug is fitted just below the front Iron sight. The old lug is still fitted because it is used for the GP series underbarrel 40mm grenade launchers. The AKS-74U does not have bayonet lugs but I don't know why they would change the threading. Remember the shorter model AK-100s have the same muzzle break as the AKS-74U so they should all be interchangable.

    The suppressor I have on my AK has an adaptor because the suppressor is designed for the SAIGA series rifles which do have much wider threading than the Type 56S AKM knockoff that I own.

    The Tunguska should still be around, and might even be modernized also?

    Tracked vehicles do have their advantages.
    That would be likely... no point in having different missiles and radars for a system that basically does the same thing. Like the original the missiles are cheap and all the cost is in the sensors on the vehicle.

    Well not really. Wheeled chassis, which was Arabs' requirement, itself is twice the length of combat module and unlike armored chassis it's size is directly proportional to load it's designed to carry.
    To be fair, while the Arabs did pay for the upgrade the Pantsir was always going to be wheeled to reduce costs and compliment Tunguska and a fixed shelterised version was to be an even cheaper option.

    Yeah, no tracker there they probably hurried it to the exhibition.
    It is GM-59XX universal platform which is not BMP-3 derivative.
    It was a cheaper version with no tracking radar. Terminal tracking and guidance was performed by optical sights to reduce costs and to operate in a more passive mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karaahmetoglu კოპაძე View Post
    In the pictures with the Kazakh-Russian joint operation, the light blue Su-27's with the white nose are Kazakh. If anyone has any info on which version it is, please tell.
    You mean these ones:
    http://pilot.strizhi.info/photos/v/C...le/?g2_page=15
    Anyway all Kazakh Flankers are standard Su-27 and Su-27UB.

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    Hi all, few interesting pics and news.

    SAU Coalition project closed. There is a new project - "Необитаемость".



    Early version BMPT:

    1. Highlander Tank 1990

    2. Early soviet version of BMPT

    3. Т-72АВ with minimal modifications
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    Quote Originally Posted by madgordon View Post
    SAU Coalition project closed. There is a new project - "Необитаемость".
    any details?

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    Quote Originally Posted by K-5 View Post
    PTB-3000 is still there, me wonders where they flew
    And - if only President Medvedev had asked to use the toilet !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osobeast View Post
    any details?
    From the looks of it, they're going with an unmanned turret so as to fit a bigger autoloader/more ammo. Im guessing this way they can have a faster loading cycle, etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alef View Post
    warning... violence
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAp7LVGsGPc

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    Holy ... the grenade!

    Alef...what the?

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