9 x21 mm ammunition (SP-10 and SP-11) for the SR-1 GYURZA (VEKTOR) pistol and SR-2 VERESK submachine gun.
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From their head.. These guys who write that thing are not even military officers.. Kopp who is the head of that organisation is an electrician.. Most of their stuff has already been proven to be BS since Kopp writes as much crap as he can about F-35 while masturbating to pictures of F-22 and F-111.
What ammo new russian pistol GSh-18 use? 9×19 mm or 9×21mm? What is penetration of those AP 9×21 mm ammo with black cone?
I think everything about PAK FA is just speculating. We don't know anything about PAK FA caracteristics. Who could guaranty, that we know correct and all caracteristics about other 3 planes? I think Kopp and others are lobbyists and in that way we must read them. Some sources and claims are correct, but everything is turned for lobbying.
As I know Kopp is from Australia. This is my opinion, but I think he/them is lobbying in australian MoD for buying F-22 and upgrading F-111 instead of buying F-18E/F and F-35. I think this could be two influential groups in MoD and question is which option could win.
information, is information. One can read the technical aspect of his articles (which is quite often very good) without being swayed by the overall goal of his website.
Sorry to break up the discussion!
Here are some pictures of the 2008 CIS special forces competition, courtesy of gunfire.ru:
Still no way to identify which teams are which. One picture shows an Alfa patch, but I know other countries have Alfa teams as well. I believe the team in the gorkas with high contrast panels are Vympel, but this is only my opinion.