Reply With QuoteI dont think you can keep the mechanism of a rifle secret, at least not by the time they are accepted into service and produced in the hundreds of thousands.
Amazing what you can find on-line:
Deactivated prototype of Ak-109, taken from TGR, ~2k $$:
Who needs spies when all eventually find it's way to the net?
I dont think you can keep the mechanism of a rifle secret, at least not by the time they are accepted into service and produced in the hundreds of thousands.
Just guessing but one will provide night and all weather stereo view for pilot and other will be for aiming guided weapon for weapons officer in other seat.DAMN awesome Mi8
For what does it need 2 Eyes ?
It means one crew can be guiding weapons while the pilot can still look around and fly the aircraft at night safely.
Or it is possible they are evaluating two optics turrets, but I think the above makes more sense. Note on the Mi-28N there is a small ball just below the thimble nose for the pilots view of the world. In production models it seems to have 5 windows for optics and lasers and night vision. Below it is a large drum like optics for the gunner. Each is independant and allows both crew to look at different things at the same time which is obviously very important.
Just as a battle taxi the BTR-80 and BTR-80A are good vehicles. They are cheap enough to be deployed widely and offer most of the advantages that the BTR-90 does in the battle taxi role. A laser rangefinder should improve its performance at stand off supporting roles where it has dropped off troops and then retreats while they attack what they are supposed to be attacking. The BTR-90 doesn't have enough armour to move with infantry so it would operate in a similar manner as a support vehicle for the troops it has just delivered. The BTR-90 however can also be used on its own in some operations where the opposition doesn't have ATGMs. From 600m or more it can accurately kill targets while remaining outside RPG range and is protected from 50 cal weapons too. The BTR-80 would have to operate further back than that so a laser rangefinder is more useful as it makes longer range support more effective.Why are they fielding BTR-80s when they have the BTR-90?
Brief and to the point as usual. The BTR series was always the cheap option to make up numbers. When western forces had lots of low priority units that would be transported by truck the Soviets used the BTR to get their infantry mechanised more quickly than they ever could if they only used the much more expensive BMP. The BMP is far more expensive than contemporary western APCs like the M113 and FV 432. To transport all their troops in BMPs would have broken the budget. Hense the BTR-60, which is basically an armoured truck with amphibious capability was designed. The twin engine design was because the engine used was widely used in trucks and was cheap and reliable. The problems it caused with transmission meant there were issues in keeping them running but the problem was solved by the BTR-80 with a single diesel engine taking over. They could have used one engine from the start but the point was that two less powerful widely available engines was cheaper.Casue BTR-90 is expensive.
BTR is delivery vehicle for the troops to fight on foot. Start using it as a platform to fight from and its thin armour will show... no matter what model you use. BMP and BTR take to to the place of battle or takes you out of it, but you fight on foot when you get there with the APC providing support unless the enemy is a few guys with rifles.Yeah, but it provides way better protection than BTR-80, the 80 just guards you against small arms fire, the 90 protects you from heavy machine guns and at least 20mm as well. Btr-80 encounters a BMP-2= pwnage. Btr-90 encounters a Bmp-2= survival or even the possibility to defeat it.
Or an animation showing how it actually works like here...Amazing what you can find on-line:
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as07-e.htm
Esp. 3rd image down.
Su-122-54, last of the kind.
http://pblinov.narod.ru/krasnSU122/su122.html
Perhaps of interest... the new symbol of the Presidential power in Russia (the seal of the "Commander-in-Chief" or эмблема верховного главнокомандующего)
Seksy. I like the Prussian-ness with the marshal's baton. So what does this mean, Medvedev gets this patch on his jacket when he inspects the Topols?Originally Posted by Digimon
Perhaps of interest... the new symbol of the Presidential power in Russia (the seal of the "Commander-in-Chief" or эмблема верховного главнокомандующего)
Exactly that... document seal as well. The baton is based on the Field Marshal Baton of the Russian Imperial army.... but given that Russian military traditions had been originally framed by the Germans and Prussians, then yes... it is probably traceable to Prussia.
Last edited by Digimon; 05-08-2009 at 02:51 AM.
AK 107/108 were not fielded yet (and I doubt that ever will as those awtomaty aren't so much better than AK-74M), so I assume that were produced in small numbers, so to speak AK-109 must be total rarity.
Of course it is ;P
But pupils were better than teachers
I wasn't speaking about that Ak in particular. Especially considering that balanced recoil was advertised on many arms expo's.
Yet again, it is one of the only 3(afaik) prototypes that were built.
Yesterday, doing some researches in open sources, I made a photo album of the 33th independent motorifle brigade (mountain) located in Botlih, Dagestan. It's one of the newest Russian brigades, formed in 2006 from the scratch with an all-new base. This contract brigade give us an interesting insight of the Russian planned future standards of military base.
Base located in a very remote mountain region, near the border with the Chechen republic
Base at night
Perimeter
Inside of barracks for privates and sergants
Stadium of brigade
Light weapons
More heavy weapons
Unfinished yet hangars
Artillery of brigade
Modernized MT-LB 6MB, with new turret
AAA and counter-insurgency infantry support weapon
Something strange, command or radio vehicle
Going in mountains...
Dogs squad and dogs training range
Nice terrier=)
Interesting, the road wheels spacing looks similar to T-62.
Interesting pictures Rulavan. Thanks.
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