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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrusha View Post
    http://play.killerfrog.com/p9a6l0k10...z-Part-1-.html

    Very interesting documentary about Spetsnaz

    Interviews with former and active Spetsnaz soldiers, weapon testing, "rukopashni boy", red beret training, history and much more.. enjoy.



    To watch part 2 3 4 5, just search for "Weaponology Spetsnaz" in the right upper corner and the parts will be listed for you
    pretty cool ,two questions

    1. is the new vss sniper rifle good?, because it uses a SMG platform and is silent

    2. if anybody here trained in systema, is it actually real ? because watching it i really think theres some enemy participation needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrusha View Post
    http://play.killerfrog.com/p9a6l0k10...z-Part-1-.html

    Very interesting documentary about Spetsnaz

    Interviews with former and active Spetsnaz soldiers, weapon testing, "rukopashni boy", red beret training, history and much more.. enjoy.



    To watch part 2 3 4 5, just search for "Weaponology Spetsnaz" in the right upper corner and the parts will be listed for you
    Shallow IMO. I don't know much about the spetsnaz but these guys don't know either. They just repeated the general knowledge stuff over and over. And that sonny guy? is he really Russian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_Soldier View Post
    Shallow IMO. I don't know much about the spetsnaz but these guys don't know either. They just repeated the general knowledge stuff over and over. And that sonny guy? is he really Russian?
    I think hes from the Baltic states or something. Saw another program with him, he spoke fluid Russian without any strange accents. But who knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrusha View Post
    I think hes from the Baltic states or something. Saw another program with him, he spoke fluid Russian without any strange accents. But who knows
    Liked the weapons part though. at least, I found out why they switched to smaller caliber for AK74

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    Yuriy Dolgorukiy going out for trials:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaV8vUPhUng

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    can anyone answer my questions bout vss and systema?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrusha View Post
    I think hes from the Baltic states or something. Saw another program with him, he spoke fluid Russian without any strange accents. But who knows
    Sonny is from Kaunas,Lithuania if im not wrong.He says he used to be in the MVD spetsnaz so probably Sobr or Vityaz,russian friends maybe can tell more.He was also in the Deadliest warrior Spetsnaz vs Green Beret with a former Naval spetsnaz operative.
    As for systema it seems to me to be very commercial than real life.
    Some videos of Kadochnikov look cool but i think that the real thing in russian army is SAMBO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_Soldier View Post
    Liked the weapons part though. at least, I found out why they switched to smaller caliber for AK74
    Yeah! at least something new!

    I did not know about Spetsnaz operations in the Spanish civil war, though i did know that the Soviet government did help the Spanish Communist, but i thought it only was with equipment and voluntary fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SandBagger View Post
    can anyone answer my questions bout vss and systema?
    Vss vintorez, i dont know much about that weapon but i do know that it has a range of 400 meters. And can be used as a assault rifle sometimes (?). But for snipers for long range, i think they definitely prefer SVD Dragunov.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petrusha View Post
    Vss vintorez, i dont know much about that weapon but i do know that it has a range of 400 meters. And can be used as a assault rifle sometimes (?). But for snipers for long range, i think they definitely prefer SVD Dragunov.
    Or SV 98 its more sniper weapon than SVD.

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    yeah a bolt action makes more sense

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    VSS is very much liked and respected. Being chambered for the 9 x39 round and having an integrated silencer, it is not a long range sniper rifle for the army (like the SVD). It is more for special forces and special operatons.

    The 9 x 39 round itself is heavy hitting with lots of stoping power and it also armour piercing. But, the heavy round is ballistically not ideal for long range use. Its most effective range is within 300 m.

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    So much for all the erroneous information (or disinformation) the YURY DOLGORUKY has only 12 tubes.

    The 16 tubes for BULAVA missiles are clearly visible on the above photo.

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    one imaginable upgrade path in the future would be to directly swap out the 100mm on the BMP3 and replace it with the 120mm as used on the Vena (since its a med pressure gun too). But thats probably not worth it for the foreseeable future.
    They need to evaluate whether the 100mm can continue to do the job. According to my figures the rounds for the 2S9 Vena include a HEAT round, a HE FRAG round and a HE FRAG rocket assisted round. The weight and range of each round is 13.2kg and 40-1000m, 19.8kg and 1,000-8,850m, and 19.8kg and 7,000-13,000m respectively.
    The thing is that I don't think IFV will be looking for and engaging targets at 13km range on most terrain types.
    For the 100mm gun I haven't got the numbers handy but from memory the 4km range rounds weighed about 15kgs and the 7km range weapons weighed just over 20kgs.
    In both cases the low velocity means steep diving trajectory which results in a nice uniform circular fragmentation pattern.
    Just looking at the weights I doubt the 120mm mortar model would be that much more powerful regarding HE power and the extra range is not really that important considering the role of the troop transport.
    The real issue is that with a large 57mm gun will they need a mix of auto cannon and large calibre HE vehicles like they had with mixed BMP-1 and BMP-2 units. In that case will we see a vehicle with 57mm gun only and a vehicle with say 30mm and 100mm in similar numbers to offer the required options.
    Remember these vehicles will normally operate with tanks but a tanks main gun doesn't have sufficient elevation for many tasks while the 100mm gun does.

    What is Russian view about future IFVs ........ Lighter and faster or heavely armed !!
    I am not Russian, but in the past they have gone generally for the heaviest design that will float. If they drop the amphibious requirement or have their infantry carriers cross rivers the way their tanks do then the armour level might increase dramatically. Would be a good use for all those spare tanks.

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    http://www.en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/2...155338463.html

    - new "Gorshkov" class frigate will be laid down in 2009
    - possible purchase of foreign made vessels for Russian navy

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