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    Photo album ... "A choice of kitchen technics"
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    Full version of the album http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/ed5033/view/85122/?page=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by void View Post
    Russia has the capacity for low rate production of advanced microchips, but does not have the capacity for cheap high rate production. So you wont be hearing about the next x86 CPU being made in Russia, but all of the CPUs and micro-controllers for the really sensitive equipment (fighter avionics, ICBM guidance computers, etc)in the RuA are built and designed in Russia. This is possible because a high rate of production is simply not needed for this task. For the less sensitive equipment such as laptops there is no reason not to simply buy the cheap mass produced foreign equipment (made in Taiwan).
    Don't the Zhuk-AE and Irbis-E (not sure about Irbis, though) use American-made ALTERA microcontrollers/programmable logic devices? (http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Zhuk-AE-Analysis.html I know, I know, Carlo Kopp... but still)

    Also, if I am not mistaken, the LCD matrices used in Su-35/Mig-35 multifunctional displays are also foreign-made, although that's a separate issue. I think they are trying to build a domestic factory for those, but so far they are only assembling MFDs, not producing their own matrices. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Not sure about the Irbis-E and Zhuk-AE, they very well could use some Wester components. MFDs arent really sensitive tech, its just a glorified LCD screen, not really much scope in that to put a hidden vulnerability or bug. Russian microprocessor manufacturing technology is around 5-7 years behind the West (at least in standard silicon chip tech, not sure about things like gallium arsenide chips), there is definitely a 130nm manufacturing plant in Russia, and I think also just recently a 90nm plant. That is sufficient for military needs where in most cases the bleeding edge tech for micro-controllers is not needed/desired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raden5 View Post
    Photo album ... "A choice of kitchen technics"
    By "LadyLena"









    Full version of the album http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/ed5033/view/85122/?page=0
    I'm in love

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    I was checking older posts in this thread and I found This image, which was uploaded back in 2008 by a member named "Blackshadow69".
    It looks like a SU-27, with some ¿killmarks? on the left.
    I was wondering if any of you have more info about it.
    Thanks !
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    Quote Originally Posted by void View Post
    not sure about things like gallium arsenide chips
    I've seen gallium arsenide wafers in Moscow in 1988. I think technology is there.
    AFAIK, at least some companies in Silicon Valley used help of Russian/soviet scientists and engineers. Intel and Sun, to name a few. But, face it, Russian companies today have no chances to compete on world mass market in this area. For so many reasons, not just because they are behind in silicon technology.
    Last edited by shoora; 01-13-2010 at 08:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armored_diplomacy View Post
    I was checking older posts in this thread and I found This image, which was uploaded back in 2008 by a member named "Blackshadow69".
    It looks like a SU-27, with some ¿killmarks? on the left.
    I was wondering if any of you have more info about it.
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    I believe they are from the destruction of target drones, may be wrong though

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    Quote Originally Posted by arcadian View Post
    I believe they are from the destruction of target drones, may be wrong though
    Could be; I did a quick research and I didn´t find significant kills by Russian Su-27s.
    Txs !

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    Quote Originally Posted by void View Post
    Not sure about the Irbis-E and Zhuk-AE, they very well could use some Wester components. MFDs arent really sensitive tech, its just a glorified LCD screen, not really much scope in that to put a hidden vulnerability or bug. Russian microprocessor manufacturing technology is around 5-7 years behind the West (at least in standard silicon chip tech, not sure about things like gallium arsenide chips), there is definitely a 130nm manufacturing plant in Russia, and I think also just recently a 90nm plant. That is sufficient for military needs where in most cases the bleeding edge tech for micro-controllers is not needed/desired.
    You are very correct. some folks are not so sure what they are talking about.
    here is a recent publication in regard to this issue:

    October 12, 2009 - JSC Sitronics and the Russian Corporation of Nanotechnologies (RUSNANO) have signed an agreement to "launch full-scale production" on a 90nm microchip production line. The investment will be in cooperation with Sitronics divisions Sistema and NIIME and Mikron at facilities in Zelenograd, Russia.

    Terms of the deal peg the total investment at nearly $560M, split roughly 60-40 with Sitronics as the lead investor; Sitronics will invest "an equal amount" for tools to be provided by NIIME and Mikron. New facilities incorporating research, design, and production will be built "on the basis of" the existing facilities of the two units. No details about planned production capacities (at startup or full capacity) were provided, though in a statement the groups said end products would target a wide range of end applications, from digital TVs, GPS navigation systems, and smart cards to industrial automation and automotive electronics.

    The new 90nm line "is of considerable strategic importance for Russia," and "plays an invaluable role in the development of the Russian high-tech sector and the country’s overall technological security," said Anatoly Chubais, CEO of RUSNANO, in a statement. Gennady Krasnikov, general director of NIIME and Mikron, noted that the company's migration to 90nm "will enable us to enter new markets while maintaining market leading positions for our 180nm products."

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    Quote Originally Posted by void View Post
    there is definitely a 130nm manufacturing plant in Russia, and I think also just recently a 90nm plant.
    Yes, I believe Angstem or Micron have purchased some fabrication equipment from AMD to make microchips with a 180 nm and 130 nm process and Micron is currently building a 90 nm process plant.

    And that X-band AESA which Tikhomirov NIIP is building for PAK-FA will indeed have domestic GaAs MMICs and transmit-receive modules (made by NPP Istok).

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    Russia to produce 45nm chips @ 3:13

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDP97mqq20k

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    Quote Originally Posted by artjomh View Post
    Don't the Zhuk-AE and Irbis-E (not sure about Irbis, though) use American-made ALTERA microcontrollers/programmable logic devices? (http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Zhuk-AE-Analysis.html I know, I know, Carlo Kopp... but still)

    Also, if I am not mistaken, the LCD matrices used in Su-35/Mig-35 multifunctional displays are also foreign-made, although that's a separate issue. I think they are trying to build a domestic factory for those, but so far they are only assembling MFDs, not producing their own matrices. Correct me if I'm wrong.
    what is wrong with him ?

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    I have a request, someone has a pic of double launchers for R77 of Su35Bm

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