Russian Photos (updated on regular basis)

[Az_esm]

So O.195 was canceled due to unmanned turret+carousel, i guess ?

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Maybe Popovkin meant "canceled", maybe "finished".
Feel the difference.

[Hast2]

Nah, actually such design is best, even Americans wanted to go that way, look at TTB prototype based on M1 hull, and that design was very promising.

The only thing needed is that whole turret assemlby with mechanical loading system is isolated by armored bulkheads from the rest of a tank and have blow-off panels.

I mean if carousel jams and the crew is inside the capsule, what's the course of action ? Or i don't fully understand the concept.

[Hast2]

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Maybe Popovkin meant "canceled", maybe "finished".
Feel the difference.

Maybe. Whatever.

[Damian90]

I mean if carousel jams and the crew is inside the capsule, what's the course of action ? Or i don't fully understand the concept.

The concept is for maximizing armor protection and crew survivability.

Sure if mechanical loading system jams tank should retreat from battlefield for repairs because in such design crew can't do anything, but this was not the most important thing, important was maximized armor protection, crew survivability and that's all with minimal possible weight.

The same thing Yanks wanted to do with this:





We can even see some similarities.

Russian design is just probably more mature, because Yanks cancelled TTB when cold war ended... sad.

[Khathi]

2)In the video ill be posting below they show two silos being opened when Putin visits. When the cover fully opens it makes a nice bang. They say in subs silence is everything. Does this affect in a negative way Borei operation though i hope 16 bangs never being heard

When you got to launch, this bang would be your least concern. Anyway, launch is pretty noisy as of itself, shaft cover opening would be only one of numerous loud noises during the process, so it doesn't mean much.

[D-Mitch]

Il-20M (I really like this aircraft..)

[Hast2]

2Damian90

I know, i'm just guessing why they've "closed" such promising project. Reliability concerns comes to mind.

[Damian90]

Or rather financial problems, or lack of political support, or the project was not "closed" and it's all disinformation.

[Hast2]

At lest it wasn't a total myth.

[Jim Warford]

The concept is for maximizing armor protection and crew survivability.

Sure if mechanical loading system jams tank should retreat from battlefield for repairs because in such design crew can't do anything, but this was not the most important thing, important was maximized armor protection, crew survivability and that's all with minimal possible weight.

The same thing Yanks wanted to do with this:





We can even see some similarities.

Russian design is just probably more mature, because Yanks cancelled TTB when cold war ended... sad.

Actually, the TTB was just that...a test bed. The vehicle that was supposed to counter the expected Soviet FST-3 (if such a thing ever materialized), was the Abrams "Block III" tank.

[AlexMartin2]

Well, there are some reasons for "canceling" it. First, such tank will cost much more that usual. T-90, for example, is cheap, and upgrade of T-72 to near-T90 level is even cheaper.
Second, many potential adversaries, like NATO countries, are losing their military capabilities really fast. There maybe no point to build such advanced design at all. Good example is F-22, it was canceled too, because Americans thinks that is too expensive.

Anyway, this is very complex issue. I dont know we could discuss it without knowing all details.

[artjomh]

I am not SmoothieX2, but I believe that I can answer some of these.

1) Borei still has some sort of hump though a reduced one compared to Delta-s.Is the missiles dimension the main reason or is an engineering choice due to hydrodynamics?

Pr. 955 has a vestigial hump because the first two hulls were constructed partially from leftovers of cancelled Pr. 971 hulls. 971 submarines are slightly smaller in diameter, which is why these first two 955 hulls are not as cylindrical as the original design foresaw. Another limitation imposed by using 971 hulls, for example, is the fact that you cannot install a sperical sonar. Instead, YD and AN use a typical hemisphere sonar with bow torpedo tubes.

The third hull of the Pr. 955 is completely original, so the hump will be less ****ounced and the submarine will have a sperical sonar and port/starboard torpedo tubes.

2)In the video ill be posting below they show two silos being opened when Putin visits.When the cover fully opens it makes a nice bang.They say in subs silence is everything.Does this affect in a negative way Borei operation though i hope 16 bangs never being heard

Sonar operators from adversary submarines can hear hatch doors being opened or torpedo tubes being flooded anyway, so any additional bangs are irrelevant.

3)In a blog i read that russians are using ethnic tatars when comunicating through subs or ships much like navajo talkers during 2nd world war.Is this tactic introduced recently or inherited from soviet times?

Never heard anything of the sort. Wouldn't encryption work better?

Tatar is a well-known language, with limited number of permutations. 1024-bit encryption is uncrackable, at least with brute force and in the lifespan of this Universe.

[Austin]

Even from this photo you can clearly see that this tank is HUGE.
So, ladies and gentleman - its the most powerful, most protected and most crew survivable tank in the world, probably with the most advanced onboard electronics.

Thanks Sickle , We may see many of T-95 innovation in the new tanks that is under development

chief designer mentions in a recent interview of a new tank project called "Armata" with GT 1500 HP engine ,new unified platform electric tank interview link

[Damian90]

Actually, the TTB was just that...a test bed. The vehicle that was supposed to counter the expected Soviet FST-3 (if such a thing ever materialized), was the Abrams "Block III" tank.

Yes, but it was a promising Test Bed, and M1 Block III could be designed in the similiar way, or like CATTB. However this prooves that US and Soviet Union were very competetive to each other in Tank designs, much more advanced than rest of the world could even dream of.

Well we will see, but Object-195 certainly will influance future designs.

[Austin]

Pr. 955 has a vestigial hump because the first two hulls were constructed partially from leftovers of cancelled Pr. 971 hulls. 971 submarines are slightly smaller in diameter, which is why these first two 955 hulls are not as cylindrical as the original design foresaw. Another limitation imposed by using 971 hulls, for example, is the fact that you cannot install a sperical sonar. Instead, YD and AN use a typical hemisphere sonar with bow torpedo tubes.

I dont think those humps are because they used parts from Pr 971 , they are part of its design probably because the silos are located outside the pressure hull.

It still looks a very streamline design and one needs to see how it will affect the flow noise ( broadband noise ) , only the people who designed ( Rubin ) can make an authoritative statement on this subject , hydrodynamics are certainly a very complex subject and one cannot make a value judgement just looking at it.

The third hull of the Pr. 955 is completely original, so the hump will be less ****ounced and the submarine will have a sperical sonar and port/starboard torpedo tubes.

I do not see the thirst sub or future sub if improved Borei will end up with less ****ounced bumps , they would lengthen the sub to accommodate more number of missile or would just improve the electronics and noise but would keep the same number of missile.

Sonar operators from adversary submarines can hear hatch doors being opened or torpedo tubes being flooded anyway, so any additional bangs are irrelevant.

From some one I know who served on subs at highest level , mentions that the noise of TT hatch door opening etc are just Movie Creation , in reality you cant hear those noise.

I would wait for Smoothie to put across his views on this.