Russian Photos (updated on regular basis)

[MkayNow?]

Found these photos on another forum (Harkonnen actually)

Is that not a poor way to store tanks? Granted they are not T-90As, but still, not exactly old vehicles either.

[Baron Harkonnen]

Found these photos on another forum (Harkonnen actually)

Is that not a poor way to store tanks? Granted they are not T-90As, but still, not exactly old vehicles either.

This is T-90s from one of the storage bases.

[Baron Harkonnen]

Damn, I really hope Object 195 wasn't really canceled...I really do. Such a vehicle would be very important for our military.

Why do you think it is cancelled? Project is finished, tank is built, testing is proceeding.

[Az_esm]

Found these photos on another forum (Harkonnen actually)

Is that not a poor way to store tanks? Granted they are not T-90As, but still, not exactly old vehicles either.

And what could happens?
Besides it's look not like long time storage.

[MkayNow?]

And what could happens?
Besides it's look not like long time storage.

Missing Shtora from some of the tanks for one....

[flanker7]

Why do you think it is cancelled? Project is finished, tank is built, testing is proceeding.

I really hope so. And I hope more specs surface soon

[SmoothieX12]

I dont think those humps are because they used parts from Pr 971 , they are part of its design probably because the silos are located outside the pressure hull.


I do not see the thirst sub or future sub if improved Borei will end up with less ****ounced bumps , they would lengthen the sub to accommodate more number of missile or would just improve the electronics and noise but would keep the same number of missile.




From some one I know who served on subs at highest level , mentions that the noise of TT hatch door opening etc are just Movie Creation , in reality you cant hear those noise.

I would wait for Smoothie to put across his views on this.

Marked in red--tubes of the SLBMs are always INSIDE the pressurized hull of modern SSBNs for a number of technical reasons. As for in blue--there is a regime on any sub which is called full silence, when one is not allowed to use toilets, to move around sub (at least non-essential movements) etc. Ask yourself why it is so.

[SmoothieX12]

2)In the video ill be posting below they show two silos being opened when Putin visits.When the cover fully opens it makes a nice bang.They say in subs silence is everything.Does this affect in a negative way Borei operation though i hope 16 bangs never being heard

3)In a blog i read that russians are using ethnic tatars when comunicating through subs or ships much like navajo talkers during 2nd world war.Is this tactic introduced recently or inherited from soviet times?


http://tv29.ru/?bl60number=4423
Thanks in advance SmoothieX

I guess Artjohm answered most of your questions well. As for #3--absolutely no. Communications Combat Departments (aka BCH-4) never had any specific ethnicity assigned to them let alone had any specific dialect of Tatar (or any other, except for the Russian) language used in communications. As for #2, opening of the hatches is a pretty slow affair and they do not "bang" when they come to either of the extreme positions (opened or closed). During the "hover" mode--that is the regime at the launch depth at which SSBN develops launch data it moves, let's put it this way, very slowly or is not moving at all and even opened orifices such as the missiles' hatches do not play that crucial of a role in terms of silencing.

[Az_esm]

Sorry, I simply recalled the article in which Vladimir Popovkin wanted the tank, among other projects, CLOSED, and to focus on the modernization of T-90 tanks, instead.

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[artjomh]

I guess Artjohm answered most of your questions well. As for #3--absolutely no. Communications Combat Departments (aka BCH-4) never had any specific ethnicity assigned to them let alone had any specific dialect of Tatar (or any other, except for the Russian) language used in communications.

Ha!

I got really curious about this "Tatar language" nonsense and decided to find out more about this. The source of this claim was in this (fairly respectable) naval affairs blog: http://www.informationdissemination....n-defense.html

BTW, this little tidbit in the Eurasia Review article was interesting.

In the course of the ongoing discussion of Russia’s naval operations, one extremely curious detail emerged. Russian commanders are now using Tatars to communicate among naval operators to ensure that the Japanese and the Americans do not understand Russian intentions just as the US used Navaho speakers during World War II.

I do wonder how effectively this would be against China.

That blogpost led me to an "analysis" piece in Eurasia Review, some sort of two-bit journal (http://www.eurasiareview.com/analysi...-oil-shipments). The source cited there was some Islamic studies journal (http://islamportal.ru/novosti/105/1311/) and THAT finally led me to the original source: an article in the Rossiyskaya Gazeta newspaper (http://www.rg.ru/2010/12/09/a439971.html).

Pilots are also going to all sorts of tricks. For example, veterans of the Pacific Fleet aviation remember well the case when the crews of two aircraft were ordered to reveal the defense system of the American ship. To achieve the effect of surprise, the pilots not only secretly approached object of inspection, but also communicated among themselves in a language unfamiliar to Americans - both pilots belonged to the Tatar nationality and communicated in their native tongue. While the sailors were trying to find out which aircraft were loitering over their board, the pilots completed the task and flew away.

So, there's the full story. Two pilots from the Pacific Fleet naval aviation (Il-38 or Tu-142) from Tatarstan spoke Tatar to each other on one random mission to inspect the activity of a US naval group. How all of that mutated into "Russian submariners use Tatar as an encryption code" is beyond me. But that's the Internet for you!

[PHOB]

WALL-E
big brother =)

[PHOB]

guys, let's have some fun =)

[ViceStan]

Why do you think it is cancelled? Project is finished, tank is built, testing is proceeding.

What source do you have?, according to that one interview with Popovkin, I remember him clearly stating that the project was canceled and the builders were reimbursed for the money they spent working on the design.

[ViceStan]

Missing Shtora from some of the tanks for one....

There is a saying in Russian, " tanki griazi nie boiatsa ". Tanks are not afraid of dirt.

[Konst]

The test missile launch A-135. Kazakhstan. October 2010.