Russian Photos (updated on regular basis)

[Austin]

Yeah T-90AM and Armata are two different project , the former is an upgrade for T-90 or a heavily upgrade variant of T-90A , where Armata is a new project designed from scratch which takes inputs from T-95 and Black Eagle program

[Damian90]

A guy on a Russiam forum about AFV's, who is belived to work in UVZ, said that T-90M, T-90AM and Armata is one and the same thing... but maybe it was just bad translation, so to be honest I don't know, this is very confusing.

[cdr marcinko]

Left launcher is PU-1716, right is PU-SK both are for EW system KT-308



There were 2 containers at the exhibition. 40ft with 3M-14E and 3M-54E and 20ft with Kh-35UE


there are 2 in the middle 12150M Mangust and 11770 Serna

Thanks man, the Mangust, nice looking craft

[pythp3]

Yeah T-90AM and Armata are two different project , the former is an upgrade for T-90 or a heavily upgrade variant of T-90A , where Armata is a new project designed from scratch which takes inputs from T-95 and Black Eagle program

Armata is not a tank, but a project of a universal heavy plattform, on which will be based artillery... MBT, etc.

A guy on a Russiam forum about AFV's, who is belived to work in UVZ, said that
T-90M, T-90AM and Armata is one and the same thing... but maybe it was just bad
translation, so to be honest I don't know, this is very confusing.

No, developement phases do not match, unless T-90AM and earlier T-90M were different projects, which they aren´t, or unless the new Armata would be based on T-90 platfform, which is very unlikely. Besides, it was stated that the new MBT based on it will use project 195´s developements.

[-Julik- 4.GdKp]

Your silly opinion have nothing to do with reality. And this tank is not a Black Eagle but Object-640, this is more proper designation name. And no, they just get prototype on a ride it seems. The new Rusian MBT will be designed under "Armata" project by UVZ, and from what we know it will be also designated as T-90M vel T-90AM (at least some sources says so) or can be even downscalled Object-195.

Object-640 was designed in Omsk, and Omsk is now out of tank production deal.

Obj. 195 have nothing in common with T-90M(AM).....And Obj. 640 is also an different story...

[Austin]

Armata is not a tank, but a project of a universal heavy plattform, on which will be based artillery... MBT, etc.

You are right , it skipped my mind.

No, developement phases do not match, unless T-90AM and earlier T-90M were different projects, which they aren´t, or unless the new Armata would be based on T-90 platfform, which is very unlikely. Besides, it was stated that the new MBT based on it will use project 195´s developements.

Yes there is official statement from senior officials that the new tank will have technologies developed from black eagle and Object 195 , at other places there are statements that it would be a hybrid tank and engine of 1500 hp and 1800 hp are being tested.

So its quite safe to say T-90AM and Armata are two different project , although they share a common 125 mm caliber MG

[pythp3]

The drop of the 155mm caliber is a pity. Developement of new munitions was really interesting, especially new gun launched missiles (you could fit something like a Kornet there!) with more power or even fire and forget capabilities. But 125mm is enought against today´s and nearer term foreign developements. I think that they designed it in a way that you could fit a larger one in case of necessity.

The gun would not be the same either. There are new developements with higher ballistic properties to substitute current 2A46 models or wathever, but yes, they will share the same 125mm calibre.

Hibrid, electrical transmission? there is a project, but it is made for future SAM systems, not sure if by the same company. Armata, I do not think so.

[Austin]

The drop of the 155mm caliber is a pity. Developement of new munitions was really interesting, especially new gun launched missiles (you could fit something like a Kornet there!) with more power or even fire and forget capabilities. But 125mm is enought against today´s and nearer term foreign developements. I think that they designed it in a way that you could fit a larger one in case of necessity.

Bigger caliber would mean they need more space to carry same ammo or with smaller size they can carry less ammo , like you rightly said most of NATO threats can be effectively dealt with 125 mm cal gun and better ammo.

The gun would not be the same either. There are new developements with higher ballistic properties to substitute current 2A46 models or wathever, but yes, they will share the same 125mm calibre.

T-90AM has a new gun , some one mentioned in another board that it would be better then L55 and it will carry a new autoloader for long rods , lets see what comes up.

Hibrid, electrical transmission? there is a project, but it is made for future SAM systems, not sure if by the same company. Armata, I do not think so.

Check this interview link

if you want to discuss this further take this at Russian Miilitary Discussion thread at GD , let them post pics peacefully on this thread

[Konst]

[medo]

Kamaz armored truck???

[mannelig]

KamAZ Taifun? Looks awesome.

[ak-74]

is armata project is the same t-99 concept? t-90m turret with new body I saw picture like this below but with artillery or mortar with the same body

[D-Mitch]

Revised photo by charly015

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Nice..
Kinda reminds me TATRAPAN http://www.kerametal.sk/en/commercia...on-1/tatrapan/

[Zvezda]

In my opinion a better buy license for the Leopard-2 A6 and produce it in Russia ...

Spend three times the amount that offers no better the battle performance and kill the tank industry in Russia? Sounds like a terrible idea.