A Greek in the Netherlands who struggles with the bad weather every day..
Originally Posted by moosefoot
From what I gather it chiefly depends on the time of production/delivery and the unit that operates them. There is a crapload of different camos all over the Air Force for these reasons, and on top of that prototype/evaluation machines tend to be painted in whatever scheme the producer sees fit.
Generally speaking though, helicopters by Mil that have been delivered since this summer are gray and this gray drab has signature reducing qualities (radar/IR). Prior deliveries retain their usual camos for the most part. Many machines also got a freshened-up paintjob together with the introduction of the new Air Force roundel.
The Kamov Ka-52 was black at the pre-production/evaluation stage, later it recieved the usual green/tan combat helicopter camo. The gray machine that was seen at MAKS was a Ka-52K for the Navy, if I recall correctly.
This lack of a wide "standard" is also evident elsewhere. MiG-29SMTs were fairly recently given a gray/white splinter camo (reminsicent of the Sukhoi Su-35BM bort 902 and the PAK-FA) whereas other MiG-29 models still possess the USSR-era green/gray camo. A notable exception being some MiG-29UBs that have recieved an all-gray variety. In the Sukhoi case you see some versions of the classic light blue scheme in service, both for Su-27/30 and the recently adopted Su-35S. Prototypes, tech demos and what not have sported a multitude of schemes. The Su-34 has its own version in a deeper shade of blue for a while (the early machines had a greener kind though), but a few of the aircraft in the latest batch delivered to Baltimor AFB in Voronezh have recieved a new all gray camo.
I think the overall trend is simply to go gray. Evidently, it's on the increase and I find it quite likely that they will standardize it to a larger extent in the near future. Bit of a westernization, I'd say.
Originally Posted by dzhaga-dzhaga
Exactly these 28s are currently in Torzhok center. Ablogin shot them there. AFAIK these 4 are the new helos for Berkut aerobatic team. So they could be repainted like the previous Berkut paint scheme. But I personaly doubt
Thanks for your answer guys!
@Vitaly, I am really impressed that Russia will have such advanced helicopters in an aerobatic team!
yes.. but all debris will go down with a risk to damage something...anyway this solution seems hasn't benefits except of questions
also different garbage will fall in this kinda funnel from up(for example stones in mountains, or bricks in town) and stick there. No?
o! this is idea - fill this crater with stones and we are safe as in fortress!
It's basically because no one uses full caliber, medium velocity anti-tank rounds anymore. Those all were replaced in the late 40's/early 50's with HEAT and sabot rounds. Heat detonates on first touch and so doesn't deflect, and sabot is specifically designed not to deflect (and is moving too fast anyway). Smaller autocannon HE rounds like 30mm or so could deflect, but can't penetrate the hull deck.
there is always risk of hitting the turret ring, jaming the turret effectivly, hope you right though, would be a shame it was all just a phigment of someones imagination