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    Quote Originally Posted by BitnikGr View Post
    That's already largely obsolete. IRP-P isn't ordered anymore, for example.

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    So MiG is dead. Long live the MiG! Seems like they are keeping busy

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    Quote Originally Posted by _GDS_ View Post
    Yep, I can confirm it is Mig-29M2(original 29M has a single pilot cockpit),
    though don't know the accuracy of this(source: paralay about Mig-35)
    Not really, as it has one seat, behind the pilot is is fuel tanks, same way as on MiG-29K. So it is MiG-29M. M2 is for two seater, not as in M second version.

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    Photo report from my recent trip to Separate Division of Operational Purpose of Internal troops (ODON) training ground near Balashikha town in Moscow region. There were counter-terror tactical exercises of Internal troops units.

    Aviation, ODON motor-rifle units, 604th Special Purpose Center of Internal troops (also know as TsSN Vityaz) and 33rd Special Purpose Unit "Peresvet" of Internal troops Central Regional Command took part in the exercises. The event was dedicated to the celebration of 202nd anniversary of foundation of Internal troops on March 27th.


    Full report: http://vitalykuzmin.net/?q=node/495



    604th Special Purpose Center of Internal troops operator


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    Operators from 33rd Special Purpose unit "Peresvet" surmount the assault course


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    All operators from 33rd Special Purpose Unit "Peresvet" took part in the exercises are conscripts


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    Special police vehicle GAZ-233036 SPM-2


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    Vityaz special unit operators arrest the suspect


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    604th Special Purpose Center operators


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    After that 33rd "Peresvet" demonstrated to get close and clear the building under cover of armored vehicle


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    Operator with AS Val rifle


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    Operator with BON-6 armored shield from Armocom company and PP-2000 submachine-gun


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    Machine gunner from 33rd "Peresvet" on the top of GAZ Tigr armored vehicle


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    Quote Originally Posted by z7z View Post

    Absolutely brilliant photo.

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    WOW!!!!! Vitaly, thank yous so much! How do you get the access to these troops? You must be very importants!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeroyiDnepra View Post
    WOW!!!!! Vitaly, thank yous so much! How do you get the access to these troops? You must be very importants!
    Few months ago I decided to leave litigation and law practice and found a job connected to my hobby. and finally now I'm a Chief editor and general manager of one military news agency in Moscow, so the things had changed and now military press services are sending me the information and inviting to visit their events

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentKoba37 View Post
    So MiG is dead. Long live the MiG! Seems like they are keeping busy
    Doesn't stop fanboys raising the stink to the seventh heaven about "Sukhoi lobby" in general and Pogo personally "killing the MiG".

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzhaga-dzhaga View Post
    Few months ago I decided to leave litigation and law practice and found a job connected to my hobby. and finally now I'm a Chief editor and general manager of one military news agency in Moscow, so the things had changed and now military press services are sending me the information and inviting to visit their events
    wow!!! can you say to us which Military news agency?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeroyiDnepra View Post
    WOW!!!!! Vitaly, thank yous so much! ...
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    Excellent Photos! Thank you for posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzhaga-dzhaga View Post
    Few months ago I decided to leave litigation and law practice and found a job connected to my hobby. and finally now I'm a Chief editor and general manager of one military news agency in Moscow, so the things had changed and now military press services are sending me the information and inviting to visit their events
    Congrats!

    Quote Originally Posted by Khathi View Post
    Doesn't stop fanboys raising the stink to the seventh heaven about "Sukhoi lobby" in general and Pogo personally "killing the MiG".
    The truth is somewhere in between i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metberkut View Post
    The truth is somewhere in between i think.
    When MiG begun its downward spiral in mid-90es, Pogosyan was still a relative nobody, just one of the Mikhail Simonov's numerous deputies and assistants. He came to the front only in early 00s, when Simonov's failing health largely prevented him from running the company and he delegated most of his functions to Pogosyan. So even if such thing as "Sukhoi's lobby" really exists (and I've heard these whinings in Eighties!), they at least blame it on the wrong guy. When Pogo became a CEO in 2004, after Simonov's death, MiG was already pretty much in shambles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tadeus View Post
    MiG-29K? What are those thingies, some kind of flap or vortex generators on wing roots? Yo can see them just next to wing , it elongated position. Is that standard on Mig-29?
    There's no "standard" Mig-29. I think by standard you mean the old ones, the A, B and S series, the ones that have been in service for 20+ years. Those are the old ones, and then there's the new unified family, which has, except for the general aerodynamical layout, very little to nothing to do with the old Mig-29s. The new ones are the Mig-29 K (and the two-seater KUB), M (and the two-seater M2) and the Mig-35. They share a new airframe and wings and a lot of other stuff. It's actually interesting to look at a picture of an old Mig-29 next to one of the new ones, as the "looks the same" will fade away pretty quickly when it becomes apparent that pretty much everything is visibly different.

    The one on the picture could really be anything. We aren't even sure it's a two-seater because we can't see if anyone sits behind the pilot, because the canopy is the same for the single and twin seater. It could be a single seater, or a two seater with only one guy flying or with testing equipment in the back. The Krueger flaps are on the new K and M models. The sensor on the nose has also been seen already on planes that belong to MiG, which again could be any model, even if they don't have a hook installed, they could be K, M or 35 models, we don't really know for sure. Just like this one could be an M model, or a K model (doubtful, but they aren't really different except for the hook and tiny, possible details, this is also made harder by the fact that no M, 35 or K model has really been set in stone except the one for India and except for the internal equipment, but we don't know which model will or will not get a certain sensor, or the pod ability, or RAM coating, or the zig-zag shape on the radar cone or stuff like that - all just tiny details, that any one of the three designations could or could not have, depending on the wishes of the customer, because they are basically the same aircraft) or a 35 demonstrator since the Russian Air Force may order some.

    What we do know is what's new (not seen before):
    That box under the left intake with sensors similar to the ones on the nose and the rest of the airframe.
    And the round/cylindrical pod that is clearly attached to the right intake, but not directly but by some sort of "arm", which looks a bit like a navigation/designation pod (Damocles), but we only see a tiny part and not the front, so it could also be something else.

    But it's good to see that Mig FINALLY integrated the Damocles (or any for that matter) designation pod into the new Mig-29/35 series, it was sorely lacking, especially on the export market and the "capability list". Now it's a proper replacement for existing legacy Mig-29/23/21/F-7/F-5/F-.....etc users looking to modernize their fleets. They won't have to turn to the Rafale, Gripen, F-16, Super Hornet or Eurofighter, now Mig can also offer them an option.

    They should just go ahead and rename the whole new range. Since the AESA radar would really be the only thing that would set what is now the Mig-35 apart from the current Mig-29K/M, and the radar itself not being a dealbraker to any feature of the K and basically possible to order for a Mig-29K or M, it doesn't make sense to call them by a bunch of names. What if someone who wants a K, but wants the AESA radar...what is it going to be called then? Mig-35K? As soon as they get that all together (the new radar working and integrated, the pod thing and self-defence suite integrated, maybe the new RD-33MKM engines etc) and sort out what they wish the final configuration of the airplane to be, I think the AESA radar (and the pod option and whatever) will be offered for the "names" 29K and 29M, the buyer will simply have a choice between Zhuk-M2 and Zhuk-AE, and they don't get called the 35, or they are all renamed to 35something. I really don't see them offering a Mig-29K/KUB, Mig-29M/M2, Mig-35, Mig-35K...

    Unless the -29 versions are the "cheap" versions of the new airframe with just a Zhuk-M(2) and no pod option, no IFR probe etc, and the 35 version gets the AESA radar and designation pods and self defence suite and new engines and IFR, and is then offered in a land and carrier variant.

    Who knows, Mig is crazy confusing lately, no two planes leave the shop the same. They even have a "Mig-29M" flying around shows at current Mig-29 users (Slovakia, Kazakhstan, Serbia), and it doesn't even have an IFR probe, you'd assume it's because it's a very cheap replacement option, and it appears to be a land-variant of the Mig-29K (but still differens from it, like no IFR) but it still has some sort of self defence sensors, which the Mig-29K doesn't have. They should really make up their minds and get a model ready. The one in this picture might just be the ultimate, ALL bells and whistles Mig-35 model, but then you realize it is also lacking an IFR probe. WTF Mig?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzhaga-dzhaga View Post
    Few months ago I decided to leave litigation and law practice and found a job connected to my hobby. and finally now I'm a Chief editor and general manager of one military news agency in Moscow, so the things had changed and now military press services are sending me the information and inviting to visit their events
    Congrats, Mr. dzhaga-dzhaga

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mousepad View Post
    I fap only to perfect, I'm with only one girl for now SU-34, and I want 3-some.
    You people disgust me..

    [*******#ffffff]How could you cheat on the MiG-29!?[/COLOR]

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