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    Quote Originally Posted by metberkut View Post
    I have no idea what you asked in first line.
    I'm sorry, I want to say is SM3 only upgrade on the previous plane, right?

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    maybe i'm mistaken, but in many sources strange phrase "factually licensed production"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTA View Post
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    maybe i'm mistaken, but in many sources strange phrase "factually licensed production"
    This politically correct spelling "Pirate production"

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    Is it correct that 12,7 mm Kord is mounted on Raptor? It look as 14.5 KPV to me on those Charly's pictures.

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    ^ That appears indeed to be a KPV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tk1464905 View Post
    I'm sorry, I want to say is SM3 only upgrade on the previous plane, right?
    Yes, SM and SM3 versions are both modernization of "vanilla" Su-25's.

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    United Aircraft Corporation promo videos for Le Bourget 2013 Air Show! This part features: PAK-FA, Be-200, Su-35, IL-76MD-90A.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DTA View Post
    maybe i'm mistaken, but in many sources strange phrase "factually licensed production"
    Quote Originally Posted by catsavl View Post
    This politically correct spelling "Pirate production"
    It is not a CB90, but heavily influenced by it. It is not licensed as it is not a CB90 and thus shouldn't require any license. JSC Pella doesn't mention the CB90, any licenses or Dockstavarvet AB (the Swedish producer of the CB90) anywhere.

    The Raptors dimensions are different, its deplacement is different, many important details on the hull and superstructure are different and its stated performance and general characteristics are different.

    The external similarities to the CB90 are without a doubt striking, but I do not know if that itself could constitute an infringement on intellectual rights or anything of the sort. It is clear that they had a good look at the CB90, but that's where the story seems to end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTA View Post
    2 Hyde

    maybe i'm mistaken, but in many sources strange phrase "factually licensed production"

    Quote Originally Posted by catsavl View Post
    This politically correct spelling "Pirate production"


    Just look at the damn pictures, I explained it enough for your eyes and brains to do the rest. Those boats are not the same. They are similar in conception, just like any aircraft carrier, any IFV, and tank, and landing ship is similar in conception. Just look at the pictures closely. The hull is completely different. Pay attention to the seamline between lower and upper hull, to the positioning of the windows (upper and lower part, respectively), the whole front section, the whole back section, the upper section etc.. everything. Don't get hung up on forward leaning windshields and the overall layout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marat View Post
    Is it correct that 12,7 mm Kord is mounted on Raptor? It look as 14.5 KPV to me on those Charly's pictures.
    It has been corrected in his blog.

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    New bunch of specnaz strong!!!!111 pics ))


    In the end of December 2013 OSN Saturn unit received one of the first produced special armored vehicle SBM VPK-233136 based on GAZ Tigr-M. On this occasion I was invited to take some photos about the training with one of the Assault squads of the unit. Saturn already has KAMAZ-43269 Vistrel armored vehicle, but it differs from Tigr, especially in dimensions. That's why the operators have to intensively practice with new vehicle. This time they trained to move under cover of Tigr and assault the building with a ladder from the top of vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Just look at the damn pictures, I explained it enough for your eyes and brains to do the rest. Those boats are not the same. They are similar in conception, just like any aircraft carrier, any IFV, and tank, and landing ship is similar in conception. Just look at the pictures closely. The hull is completely different. Pay attention to the seamline between lower and upper hull, to the positioning of the windows (upper and lower part, respectively), the whole front section, the whole back section, the upper section etc.. everything. Don't get hung up on forward leaning windshields and the overall layout.
    To who you arguing with??? You quoted my and Calimero2 posts in wich we talked about MG on Raptor not about if Raptor is licence clone or in any other way related with CB90...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzhaga-dzhaga View Post
    In the end of December 2013 OSN Saturn unit received one of the first produced special armored vehicle SBM VPK-233136 based on GAZ Tigr-M.
    Thanks Vitaly! That's the model that is also known as SPM-2M, right?

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    Second part of UAC promo videos for Le Bourget 2013 featuring MiG-35/35D, Sukhoi Superjet 100, Su-32/34.


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