Russian Photos (updated on regular basis)

[MATI]

Russian and American Troops

This is Ukrainian desert camuflage use by Ukrainians in iraq



and here you are polish desert pantera

[GazB]

Left to right:

1. Yak-B 12.7mm Gatling of Mi-24 fame

2. GSh-6-23 of MiG-31 and Su-24

3. GSh-6-30

4. GSh-6-30K of Ak-630 naval gun

5. 2A7, Shilka's gun

6. 2A42 of BMP-2 and Ka-50

7. 2A38M, Tunguska's gun

8. 2A72, BMP-3

9. GSh-30-1 of Su-27 and MiG-29 fame
Last edited by Brute; 07-31-2008 at 09:52 AM.

Agree with Ronguild.
I think the first is the 7.62 x 54Rmm GShG-7.62 as used in the Ka-29 armed assault naval helo.

So the further corrected list should be:


1. GShG-7.62 Gatling of Ka-29

2. GSh-6-23 of MiG-31 and Su-24

3. GSh-6-30 of Mig-27

4. GSh-6-30K of Ak-630 naval gun

5. 2A7, Shilka's gun

6. 2A42 of BMP-2 and Ka-50

7. 2A38M, Tunguska's gun and late model Pantsir

8. 2A72, BMP-3 and BTR-80A

9. GSh-30-1 of Su-27 and MiG-29 fame

Isn't Shilkas gun always a quadruple package? Can it be just a single-barreled ZU-23 (as offered for some MTLB-upgrades)

The four 23mm guns used on Shilka are 4 seperate weapons and are called 2A7 and have a liquid cooling system built in to them to allow higher practical rate of fire. The guns used on the ZU-23 are 2A14 weapons that are simpler and as far as I know there was a single barrel model but the twin barrel model was more popular... only slightly more weight but double the firepower.

[Scar79]

6. 2A42 of BMP-2 and Ka-50

And as always, guys, all of you forget about our russian "brand new main attack helicopter" - Mi-28A(N).

[Mormaeglin]

Mi-28 is zaebist! I hope to see them replacing Mi-24 in close future, I wonder how many are now on duty in Army about 50?, btw is that true that Ka-50 is designed only to be used by Spec Forces in Rus' ?

[calimero2]

The Russian armed forces only have a small number in service at this time. However, 50 Mi-28N will be delivered between 2006 and 2010.

[Xaito]

Mi-28 is zaebist! I hope to see them replacing Mi-24 in close future, I wonder how many are now on duty in Army about 50?, btw is that true that Ka-50 is designed only to be used by Spec Forces in Rus' ?

I think Ka-50 was designed to be Russia's main attack helicopter like the Mi-28 but the Mi-28 for some reason was preferred - the Ka-50 will be (and has been in Chechnya?) used by spec. forces.
At least that's how I understood it after reading about it some years ago.

[Hyde]

What is a "Spec. Force" in helicopter terms? What are they doing different or what different things are they doing than usual Mi-24 and 28 squadrons?

[Ronguild]

The guns used on the ZU-23 are 2A14 weapons that are simpler and as far as I know there was a single barrel model but the twin barrel model was more popular... only slightly more weight but double the firepower.

A single barrel version exists ? Must be a very rare version.
Has someone picture of it ?

[Scar79]

Mi-28 is zaebist! I hope to see them replacing Mi-24 in close future, I wonder how many are now on duty in Army about 50?, btw is that true that Ka-50 is designed only to be used by Spec Forces in Rus' ?

Unfortunately, i can't share your optimism. Havoc is just the old soviet helicopter - bad conception, equipped with old electronics and weapons. Nothing new in comparing to Hind.

[Zmey]

Unfortunately, i can't share your optimism. Havoc is just the old soviet helicopter - bad conception, equipped with old electronics and weapons. Nothing new in comparing to Hind.

You are joking right? You must be, otherwise I cant possibly think of a reason you'd say that. What about higher speed, more weapons, more armor, FLIR, full night vision package, Longbow-style radar, movable cannon, maneuverability, finally ability to hover... digital cockpit.

[chuying]

Who know what new weapons will be show at МВСВ-2008?

[sergey31]

You are joking right? You must be, otherwise I cant possibly think of a reason you'd say that. What about higher speed, more weapons, more armor, FLIR, full night vision package, Longbow-style radar, movable cannon, maneuverability, finally ability to hover... digital cockpit.

All that exists in upgraded MI24's/35's.

[mannelig]

Unfortunately, i can't share your optimism. Havoc is just the old soviet helicopter - bad conception, equipped with old electronics and weapons. Nothing new in comparing to Hind.

MI-28 < MI24
LoL
Why?
Maybe you wanted to say it otherwise?

[Wazzaap]

[Zmey]

All that exists in upgraded MI24's/35's.

Almost all... even if you mix and match the best of the best components from all the modifications of Mi-24/35 you are still going to have old heavy airframe with useless troop compartment, a LOT less armor, less maneuverability, no radar and inefficient hover mode. And the funny thing is - you'll be upgrading Hind by either using elements of the Mi-28N, which defeats the purpose, or you'll be buying foreign components that isnt a good idea and more or less prohibited by Ru MoD. I love Hind no less than the other guy... but its time to let it go.