damn in pic 55 looks like to guy was lucky,
damn in pic 55 looks like to guy was lucky,
some really horrible pictures there
Clearly the Georgians have had their ass kicked. Clearly the US Army and Marine advisors FAILED.
Clearly it was a clusterfuc$ from the get go. That little weird bastard, te president of Georgia is a nutjob froot loop. Where do we get such lackeys? Was he the best possible lackey we could get???? WTF?![]()
I gotta give it to these fighters in these pictures gun shot wounds,lacerations,hemorrhaging and not one expression of pain.
They are some tough customers.
This webpage has been posted before, the link was erased and the tread locked.
WOW! No offense, but from what I see of the performance of the Russian army in this conflict, one should put some serious thought into this "performance".Here's a vid of some Russian soldiers looting
These were "front-line" troops, not some reservists. And the Russian Army went in there with junk like T-72Bs and even T-62s. The soldiers look like a rag-tag group. Stealing even unfiroms? Stealing slippers? Stealing banks? Yeah to the victor go the spoils...the slippers.
If this sort of equipment, discipline and performance is indicative of the rest of the Russian army (and these guys in the Caucases should be the most combat-experienced troops and more on the "front-lines" than other units), than I don't see how such an army could ever compare to a western military.
Yes the russian equipment that was used in the conflict is not impressive, and the russian soldier lives in less comfortable conditions than his western counterparts and despite all that, the well equipped, US trained georgians had more casualties, lost equipment, abandoned equipment and fled!
Maybe Russia will spend more money on it's army once the conflict is over.
The 58th Army never has been and never will be a first-tier formation in the Russian armed forces. Whilst some (I repeat: SOME) of these men have combat experience in Chechnya, most are, in fact, conscripts who would have little to none. The best Russian formations (those in and around the Moscow MD, the RFE etc) were not used in this conflict. The reason why the 58th still has tanks like T62s in its motor pool is simple; army military-technical organization staff did not believe the existent Caucasian threats warranted the presence of more advanced means (the most advanced T72s, T80s, T90s) or better formations (the 131st Moto-Rifle Brigade, for example, is considered a highly proficient all-professional unit, and only has elements in Abkhazia, not in S. Ossetia or Georgia).These were "front-line" troops, not some reservists. And the Russian Army went in there with junk like T-72Bs and even T-62s. The soldiers look like a rag-tag group. Stealing even unfiroms? Stealing slippers? Stealing banks? Yeah to the victor go the spoils...the slippers.
If this sort of equipment, discipline and performance is indicative of the rest of the Russian army (and these guys in the Caucases should be the most combat-experienced troops and more on the "front-lines" than other units), than I don't see how such an army could ever compare to a western military.
Please use your brain when making statements like the above. Simpletons watch only face-value imagery. Analytical thinkers look deeper. Be more analytical.
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Does the 58th army use the T90 tank?
A guy on another forum thinks that this is a knocked out T90
He's talking about the pic I posted above the quote.look at the 7th picture down from the top. t72's have 8 spoke road wheels and t 90's have 6 spoke road wheels.heres a couple pictures for comparision.