Static maybe, but to see it fly, dunno, don't think so, but yet, time will tell, personally i would love to see them both this year.Originally Posted by Flankerman
The defense minister (Serdjukov) visited Uralvagonzavod a couple of days ago. I bet he went there to have a look of the T-95 (the tank and the program).
I doubt it will be shown at the May parade (not the appropriate event). More likely, it will be shown at the Omsk or Nizhni-Tagil weapons show this year.
SV-98
What are the dates of these?More likely, it will be shown at the Omsk or Nizhni-Tagil weapons show this year.
Also, Armenian, have you made these photos of SV-98? Have you tried it then maybe? If yes, what can you say about it? Likey/not very etc
The Omsk show will be in June. The Nizhny-Tagyl show will be during July.What are the dates of these?
Also, Armenian, have you made these photos of SV-98? Have you tried it then maybe? If yes, what can you say about it? Likey/not very etc
No, I have not taken the photos of the SVT-98. I have handled the civilian version of it (REKORD-CISM) in 308 caliber, but have not fired it.
At least handling it....Did it feel cheap, or did it at least feel it was well built?
In honesty, if someone attacks first (USA or Russia/USSR), then either or will be able to disable the missile defense and air defense units, by overwhelming the systems. Russia made massive amount of Cruise missiles, and so has the USA. Both where designed as a cheap alternative to ballistic missiles to be able to meet standards in taking out missile defense shields and the sort, before the missiles are shot down. But since they where cheap, both sides had more cruise missiles then anything else, so even if the USA spends more money, USSR would be able to disable the USA defense systems as well, by overwhelming it.
As for the PAK FA coming out this year, I dunno about it being seen in public this year, but I have high hopes the T-95 is released this year. I truly hope it gained a lot from the Black Eagle project, as that tank was beautiful.
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Air defense is not only SAMs and radars. It is a whole organization of hardware and trained crews. In hardware, Russian air defense is one of rare air defenses. which have all mosaic of systems like SAMs of all ranges, AA guns, radars, Passive detecting systems, ELINT systems, ECM jammers, chaffs and flares, dummies, etc. I don't think western air force ever engage air defense with all components and even those which they engage were mostly from fifties and sixties. How would F-22 and F-35 do against modern generation of russian air defense with S-400, Buk-M2, Tor-M2, Pantsir-S1, Igla-S, Sosna AA gun supported with modern EW radars, ELINT systems, jammers, Gazetchik chaffs and flares, etc, is hard to say, but it sure will not be easy.
It is interesting that russian sources for this year don't give a lot of numbers, how much equipment will russian army buy this year, comparing with past years. Maybe those numbers are higher and now they become more secret. ARMS-TASS said, that Kurganmashzavod will produce 40% more than last year. Maybe Uralvagonzavod will increase production for russian army also. It is interesting, that now for a longer time is all quiet about BMPT. It was said russian army will receive first vehicles last year. Any more news about BMPTs?
Let us just say, if the West is still not fully prepared against the S-300, then I do not think they will be close to that of the S-400.
almost 10 years ago. me on the training of riot-control skills
Actually rusisan army has very few those modern systems. Most of the mentioned aren't even in service.
almost 10 years ago. me on the training of riot-control skills
Krovavaya Geb'nyaFreedom opressor.
It could be! but remember that both (F22 and F35) are made by LMAero and sponsored by the same lobby than it is difficult that this is only to sell more F22 (could be some Boeing or EF Friend putting some pressure on F35 marketing).
Anyway I'm more interested on what you think about stealth technology and in particular on F22, do you think that the money spent justify the result? I really don't thrust to much on stealthiness and at the end that it is a loosing game taking in account radar and other passive/active sensor fast evolution.
If you strain your eyes a bit, you will see the place where
the svastika used to be and was apparently later
scratched off.
Poles from Armia Krajowa.
Same photo here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armia_Krajowa.
But I see Russian PPSh-41 and this is very strange...
These is not SS helmets - I don't see swastika on them. Must be regular army helmets.
most are in service.
The point is not the power of the systems but how they are used. Look at Kosovo. NATO had over two months of total air supremacy yet on the last day the air defence network was just as dangerous as it was on the first day. It didn't shoot a lot of planes down, but it forced them to operate in a manner that made the use of airpower much less effective than it should have been. The point is that the Serbs knew how to use their weapons but lacked the right missiles to reach the targets. The Russians don't lack those missiles to reach the targets and have 1000 times more radars and systems that need to be dealt with to defeat the air defence system. On top of that they also have an airforce to support the system too.In honesty, if someone attacks first (USA or Russia/USSR), then either or will be able to disable the missile defense and air defense units, by overwhelming the systems. Russia made massive amount of Cruise missiles, and so has the USA. Both where designed as a cheap alternative to ballistic missiles to be able to meet standards in taking out missile defense shields and the sort, before the missiles are shot down. But since they where cheap, both sides had more cruise missiles then anything else, so even if the USA spends more money, USSR would be able to disable the USA defense systems as well, by overwhelming it.
Cruise missiles are interesting but are not much use against mobile targets. They were running low on cruise missiles after Desert Storm and they certainly did not use thousands. The reality is that used against Russia there is the added threat that the launch platforms are at risk... something that was not an issue for the limited operations we are talking about.
The vast majority of in service systems are actually old, though not as old as the systems in Iraq or Serbia. The latter didn't even have a single S-300 system at all, nor did they have S-200, they had old export SA-2s and SA-3s for the majority of the systems. Russian models, while old are updated periodically with optical backup systems and are available in enormous numbers. The SA-1 is still offered as a training target and over 13,000 have been used since the 1970s as training targets. They made hundreds of thousands of these weapons, and they might not be much use against a 9 g manouvering fighter, but against a cruise missile they are ideal.
I second that question... has anyone actually fired the SV-98 and what are their impressions? I have read good reports and I have heard very negative reports.Also, Armenian, have you made these photos of SV-98? Have you tried it then maybe? If yes, what can you say about it? Likey/not very etc
The only other times I read such conflicting opinions is where there is competition flavouring the arguements. (ie Mig-29 vs Su-27, Mi-28 vs Ka-50) where each side seems to promote their own and bad talk the other.
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