Greatest Battle of all Time

[Labud]

The Thermopylae 480 b.c. - the most epic battle in history
The battle on Marica 1371. - after that battle was open the way for Ottoman expansion in Europe
The battle of Dobro Polje - the battle that solved the Great war
Stalingrad - battle that solved the WWII, and very epic also

[Laworkerbee]

Originally Posted by Labud

The Thermopylae 480 b.c. - the most epic battle in history
The battle on Marica 1371. - after that battle was open the way for Ottoman expansion in EuropeThe battle of Dobro Polje - the battle that solved the Great war
Stalingrad - battle that solved the WWII, and very epic also

Constantinople in 1453 was pretty epic as well

[zad]

Battle of Covadonga, 722 AC, Covadonga, Asturias, Spain, After the defeat of Tolose the moors returned to the Iberian peninsula, and decided to consolidate their holdings there, before taking on the Franks again. All Spain is ocuped except Asturias a tiny small mountainous region in the north. In the summer of 722 in a narrow valley flanked by mountains, 300 asturian guerrillas leaded by King Pelayo ambush a moors force of 1400 men, first major victory by a Christian military force in Iberia following the Muslim Moors' conquest of Iberia in 711, this battle mark the beginning of the Reconquista.

[Juszi]

Originally Posted by Smok

Grunwald 1410 (Poland against Teutonic Order). The biggest battle of middle ages.

Known also as the first Battle of Tannenberg.
I would also include the battle of Beresteczko (Berestechko), the largest battle of XVII century, and battle of Warsaw from 1920 (The Miracle at Vistula), the battle that stopped bolshevik forces during Polish - Bolshevik war, and also saved western Europe from communist expansion.

Of course, Kursk battle is terribly important, as it actually was turning point of World War II.

I would say the Battle of Thermopylae, Salamis and Plataea. Without this final victory, it's likely that democracy would have been stalled for centuries

There was no democracy in Sparta, and spartan forces were not fighting for it.

[koko]

Originally Posted by Canuck Farrier

Even if Russia was defeated which in certain scenarios could have been possible,The rest of us would still have kicked Germanys ass.

Read some history books kid. SU did main job in destroying nazi Germany best elite troops. Those germans which allies meet in France 1944 was just a weak shadow of mighty german armies which invaded SU in 1941.
Yes you could still bomb German factories but you couldn't destroy millions of troops and thosands of tanks on ground. Especialy if we compare best western tanks like sherman with german superior armor. Ratio would have been like 10vs1

[Anthony91]

Battle of Chosin Reservoir (1950)
40,000 UN troops (US and British Marines) kill 25,000 Chinese soldiers.

[PELEIDES]

Originally Posted by InetWarrior

How can you be sure about that?

Because Persia was not a democracy and judging by their actions when conquering others, they would have continued on with their form of government and forced the conquered to follow suit.

[PELEIDES]

Originally Posted by Juszi

There was no democracy in Sparta, and spartan forces were not fighting for it.

True. But the Athenians had it and were fighting for it and in the end, they won.

[Labud]

Originally Posted by Laworkerbee

Constantinople in 1453 was pretty epic as well

Marica battle wasn't epic like Constantinopole siege, it was very unepic battle. Serbs had got drunk, and Turks slaughtered them all on sleeping. But the conseqeuces of this battle were very big.

[valtrex]

Originally Posted by Smersh

'democracy' was stalled for centuries.

I guess you mean that Democracy was stalled because of the Spartan win in the Peloponnesian War?
...which ofcourse is not the case, 'cause when the Athenians accused the regime established in Athens after the Spartan victory as "Oligarchy", they did so because they thought that Athens was governed by an "oligarchic regime", the "elite" was elected by voting & not by draw (which from an Athenian perspective this is the ultimate expression of Democracy)...does that mean that we are now governed by Oligarchic elites?
Or do mean that in the Dark Ages W.Europe's Feudal regime was not Democratic? That's true but you forget the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantium). Its regime was much more complexed (e.g quasi-Feudalism). Do you forget its communal-based system? In which some Greek or Byzantine towns & areas retained municipal self-government?
I'd say that the Greek wins in the Persian wars, saved Democracy.

[marek]

The Siege of Belgrad/Nándorfehérvár (July 4–July 22, 1456):
Hungarians are proud of to this episode of history;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Belgrade

[Calanen]

Originally Posted by PELEIDES

True. But the Athenians had it and were fighting for it and in the end, they won.

Not in the Pelopponesian wars they didn't....

[herman30]

What about the battle of Teutoburg forest in 9 AD. A battle between germanic tribes and roman empire which cost the lives of 15.000 to 20.000 roman soldiers and ended the roman attempt to invade Germania.

http://www.livius.org/te-tg/teutobur...m#Introduction

[Stu B]

It makes me laugh when people who probably get all their knowledge from the history channel insist that the western allies would have won on their own. With something like 70 percent of German combat power in the east and nearly 90 percent of German casualties occuring in the east it can be said that it was the red army which destroyed the largest part of the German army. It is also likely that if all the armoured formations fighting in the east were available to counter attack amphibious landings in north west europe then the western allies wouldn't have risked an invasion. I don't take anything away from the achievements of the western allies, but I wish more people had knowledge of the eastern front and could look at it objectively.

[Tyler Durden 95]

Verdun, The Somme, Stalingrad. Several millions deaths for these three.