Spy shot: EOTech's new Grenade launcher sight

SMGLee · 12-09-2008, 04:07 PM

This is developed at the request of ARDEC. the next generation US military grenade launcher sight. with a still undetermined SU-2XX designation.

PLEASE DON'T ASK WHEN THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE, OR WILL BE AVAILABLE AT ALL....THIS IS A MILITARY ONLY ITEM!!!

Adjustment much in tune with the EOTech holo-weapon sights with a NVD button.

The floating reticle range from 100-360. it will track up and down as you raise or lower the weapon.

Linedoggie · 12-09-2008, 04:26 PM

Other than it's smaller than the AN/PSQ-18A is there any advantage over it?

Bulletproof · 12-09-2008, 04:31 PM

Well well thanks as usual for those superb pics SMGLee.

Hippo · 12-09-2008, 04:38 PM

thats really cool. Thanks for sharing

Createdeemcee · 12-09-2008, 05:44 PM

awesome techs at L3!

HOLLiS · 12-09-2008, 05:47 PM

Great photos,

kuttless · 12-09-2008, 05:50 PM

sweet pics.Thank SMG

Anthony91 · 12-09-2008, 05:50 PM

Cool piece of kit, hopefully our boys and girls can get them soon if the item is any good.

ARGAR FORKBEARD · 12-09-2008, 07:26 PM

How do you find out about this stuff????

good pix tho dude...... you're the gun gizmo guru!!!! lol

jnorth162 · 12-09-2008, 09:17 PM

It looks like this is just some kind of big, luminous quadrant sight and lacks the ranging and impact point calculation facilities of the PSQ-18. It also looks to not weigh as much as the 203, unlike the PSQ-18. Cool...

Sand Man · 12-09-2008, 09:28 PM

Great pics as usual, Lee...

Suigenesis · 12-09-2008, 10:10 PM

The problem with the new sights the Army wants to field for the M203s is that they are all too complicated. The sight that's coming on the new 40MM grenade launchers requires you to lase your target to get a range, then eyeball some green and red lights to line up the perfect elevation and windage. That's fine and dandy on a quiet range at the proving grounds, but every M203 round I've ever seen fired in combat has been a "Oh ****, I gotta fire a 203 round at that clump of trees over there! But there are so many rounds coming my way I only have a second to acquire my target and shoot. Looks about 200 meters, pop up, WHOOMP, ahh hell I missed anyway." Not much time to pop up, lase, range, line up some dots, then shoot a round that's probably not going to hurt it's target anyway.

This Eotech sight is much better. You can guess your range, pop up, and use the BDC reticle to figure out how to angle your launcher. Much faster. If the thing is paralax free past 50 meters like the rifle sights, that's even better. I'd like to take try this sight out.

JVeld · 12-10-2008, 12:08 AM

Very nice Chen, Thanks for the info and pics !!!

hitmonjules · 12-10-2008, 01:03 AM

Suigenesis hit it on the head, most of our grenadiers who were issued the M203 had some hunting experience and were able to "kentucky windage" the 203 pretty well. As previously stated, it is near impossible to properly line up the new electronic sights under fire, but if it helps enough to offset the increase in weight, go for it. That said, there's already so much weight on an M203 equipped M4's front end that it's become wholly impractical. IR laser, surefire light, maybe a leaf sight, the 203 itself, the round, it all adds up. Some guys add bipods or vertical grips to it as well. What's on the other end?
A plastic butt stock.

Perhaps this change to a modular M320 is for the better, and the ability to "M79" it would allow it to be stowed like a breaching shotgun or left behind altogether if warranted.

BlackFlag85 · 12-10-2008, 01:06 AM

Cool bit of technology there Lee. Thanks for sharing.

12-09-2008, 04:07 PM	#1
SMGLee mp.net numba wan Chinaman Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: So Cal Posts: 2,054	Spy shot: EOTech's new Grenade launcher sight This is developed at the request of ARDEC. the next generation US military grenade launcher sight. with a still undetermined SU-2XX designation. PLEASE DON'T ASK WHEN THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE, OR WILL BE AVAILABLE AT ALL....THIS IS A MILITARY ONLY ITEM!!! Adjustment much in tune with the EOTech holo-weapon sights with a NVD button. The floating reticle range from 100-360. it will track up and down as you raise or lower the weapon.

12-09-2008, 04:26 PM	#2
Linedoggie If anyone needs a damn fool, i'm your man Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Escaping from New York Posts: 6,676	Other than it's smaller than the AN/PSQ-18A is there any advantage over it?

12-09-2008, 04:31 PM	#3
Bulletproof Banned user Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal, Canada Age: 26 Posts: 1,816	Well well thanks as usual for those superb pics SMGLee.

12-09-2008, 04:38 PM	#4
Hippo Banned user Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Im not a wannabe. I have shot an AK-47, M4, M16, 50.cal machine gun, 50.cal barreta sniper, colt 191 Posts: 2,394	thats really cool. Thanks for sharing

12-09-2008, 05:44 PM	#5
Createdeemcee Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Leaders of Change, Past & Present! Posts: 2,944	awesome techs at L3!

12-09-2008, 05:47 PM	#6
HOLLiS Hood, Robin Hood Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Setting on top of a Mountain with a bowl of rice contemplating something really Important. Posts: 20,753	Great photos,

12-09-2008, 05:50 PM	#7
kuttless Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Where I need to be. Age: 24 Posts: 3,533	sweet pics.Thank SMG

12-09-2008, 05:50 PM	#8
Anthony91 Blousing the boots for a more professional look since 2005 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: United States Posts: 11,772	Cool piece of kit, hopefully our boys and girls can get them soon if the item is any good.

12-09-2008, 07:26 PM	#9
ARGAR FORKBEARD Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 585	How do you find out about this stuff???? good pix tho dude...... you're the gun gizmo guru!!!! lol

12-09-2008, 09:17 PM	#10
jnorth162 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5	It looks like this is just some kind of big, luminous quadrant sight and lacks the ranging and impact point calculation facilities of the PSQ-18. It also looks to not weigh as much as the 203, unlike the PSQ-18. Cool...

12-09-2008, 09:28 PM	#11
Sand Man Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Siaton, Negros Oriental Posts: 6,792	Great pics as usual, Lee...

12-09-2008, 10:10 PM	#12
Suigenesis Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Candyland Posts: 371	The problem with the new sights the Army wants to field for the M203s is that they are all too complicated. The sight that's coming on the new 40MM grenade launchers requires you to lase your target to get a range, then eyeball some green and red lights to line up the perfect elevation and windage. That's fine and dandy on a quiet range at the proving grounds, but every M203 round I've ever seen fired in combat has been a "Oh ****, I gotta fire a 203 round at that clump of trees over there! But there are so many rounds coming my way I only have a second to acquire my target and shoot. Looks about 200 meters, pop up, WHOOMP, ahh hell I missed anyway." Not much time to pop up, lase, range, line up some dots, then shoot a round that's probably not going to hurt it's target anyway. This Eotech sight is much better. You can guess your range, pop up, and use the BDC reticle to figure out how to angle your launcher. Much faster. If the thing is paralax free past 50 meters like the rifle sights, that's even better. I'd like to take try this sight out.

12-10-2008, 12:08 AM	#13
JVeld Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Age: 31 Posts: 1,555	Very nice Chen, Thanks for the info and pics !!!

12-10-2008, 01:03 AM	#14
hitmonjules Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 42	Suigenesis hit it on the head, most of our grenadiers who were issued the M203 had some hunting experience and were able to "kentucky windage" the 203 pretty well. As previously stated, it is near impossible to properly line up the new electronic sights under fire, but if it helps enough to offset the increase in weight, go for it. That said, there's already so much weight on an M203 equipped M4's front end that it's become wholly impractical. IR laser, surefire light, maybe a leaf sight, the 203 itself, the round, it all adds up. Some guys add bipods or vertical grips to it as well. What's on the other end? A plastic butt stock. Perhaps this change to a modular M320 is for the better, and the ability to "M79" it would allow it to be stowed like a breaching shotgun or left behind altogether if warranted.

12-10-2008, 01:06 AM	#15
BlackFlag85 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Motor City Strong!! Posts: 2,608	Cool bit of technology there Lee. Thanks for sharing.