South African National Defence Force - Page 151

KeroJP4 · 10-31-2009, 02:32 PM

Thanks Wilhelm, I am interested in any details that could be supplied.

In addition I am also curious about the Casspir truck Hispano MkV 20 mm gun mounting. I will build a Casspir kit too and any picture of such Casspir and 20mm gun (!!! What a powerful gun for a truck !!!) would be appreciated.

Regards,

Richard

Dwelm · 10-31-2009, 06:27 PM

I have a old picture of two casspirs at my old house (I think 36 BN) will scan and post it after fetching it, but I cant remember the guns. will see next week.

KeroJP4 · 11-01-2009, 04:37 PM

I am looking for details of the following gun system :

The pic is a screener from a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBqc7FbIcyY) but it is not very accurate...

Can anyone help ?

Regards,

Richard

wilhelm · 11-02-2009, 06:33 AM

Kero, I'll have to visit my friend who knew Rfn Thom well. I'll ask if he knows anything further.

As to that 20mm gun mounted on the Casspir, I believe it was Koevoet who mounted that gun in the picture. AFAIK, that was a Hispano 20mm cannon that was taken out of an old Vampire jet fighter when it was retired.

The Casspir's weapon station on the vehicle top just behind the front seats have seen many weapon systems mounted there over the years. 20mm cannon, 14,5mm and 12,7mm, most of which were field modifications. More official were single or twin Browning or FN 7,62mm machine guns in a factory mount/shield.

AtK · 11-04-2009, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilhelm

I believe the gunner in the Ratel was Rfn Thom, who was a friend of a friend. He placed accurate 20mm fire onto the T-55, one of which penetrated around the cuppola area, detonating the T-55's internal ammunition. He was killed soon after when another T-55 shot out his Ratel. I think he was awarded a postumous Honoris Crux.

This is off the top of my head. I'll check the details later.

True. The callsign was 21C. Interesting to note that the A Coy Ratel shot out was callsign 12C.

Funny that these questions are asked at this time - the period that they were killed in.

GETSOME · 11-04-2009, 08:38 AM

Thanks for the info on the stepouts guys.

wilhelm · 11-06-2009, 03:32 AM

3 view of the Cheetah C

2SAI Desert Rat · 11-07-2009, 06:03 AM

Does anyone know who the first infantry unit was to take over border duties from the police and when?

GETSOME · 11-11-2009, 07:29 AM

Does anyone have a pic on the new infantry badge worn on the beret?
Dankie

Also are the para wings awarded to new parabats numbered?

AtK · 11-11-2009, 07:51 AM

There you are - the beret badge is without the scroll at bottom.

GETSOME · 11-14-2009, 05:30 AM

^^^^
Thanks for that,is it in metal ?
Also is the beret ,infantry the same colour as it was in the SADF?

exT70 · 11-16-2009, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GETSOME

^^^^
Thanks for that,is it in metal ?
Also is the beret ,infantry the same colour as it was in the SADF?

Cloth when on beret.
Same colour.
Now one beret and badge for all infantry. No more unit badges, and no "balkies".
Also note that the colour of the rank insignia has changed recently.

StrikeForce20 · 11-16-2009, 04:44 PM

Where is a good site excluding Trident Military were I can buy Rhodesian camouflage..even old SADF would do..thanks

playtym · 11-17-2009, 05:03 AM

Check out https://www.warstore.co.za/
Look under > Southern African Wars > Rhodesia

You could also try http://www.aleckaplan.co.za/Medals-B.../View-category
They regularly auction old Rhodesian kit

I've bought from both and have never had any issues in my dealings with them. You're going to pay collector prices though.

GETSOME · 11-18-2009, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exT70

Cloth when on beret.
Same colour.
Now one beret and badge for all infantry. No more unit badges, and no "balkies".
Also note that the colour of the rank insignia has changed recently.

What is the colour,any pics ,thanks.

11-06-2009, 03:32 AM	#2257
wilhelm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Age. Fac ut gaudeam! Age: 37 Posts: 1,494	3 view of the Cheetah C Attached Thumbnails

11-07-2009, 06:03 AM	#2258
2SAI Desert Rat Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Gauteng South Africa Posts: 11	Border Duty Does anyone know who the first infantry unit was to take over border duties from the police and when?

11-11-2009, 07:51 AM	#2260
AtK Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 110	There you are - the beret badge is without the scroll at bottom. Last edited by AtK; 11-11-2009 at 07:51 AM. Reason: spelling

10-31-2009, 02:32 PM	#2251
KeroJP4 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ponthierry - France Posts: 65	Thanks Wilhelm, I am interested in any details that could be supplied. In addition I am also curious about the Casspir truck Hispano MkV 20 mm gun mounting. I will build a Casspir kit too and any picture of such Casspir and 20mm gun (!!! What a powerful gun for a truck !!!) would be appreciated. Regards, Richard

10-31-2009, 06:27 PM	#2252
Dwelm Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Battle of the Tugela Posts: 49	I have a old picture of two casspirs at my old house (I think 36 BN) will scan and post it after fetching it, but I cant remember the guns. will see next week.

11-01-2009, 04:37 PM	#2253
KeroJP4 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ponthierry - France Posts: 65	I am looking for details of the following gun system : The pic is a screener from a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBqc7FbIcyY) but it is not very accurate... Can anyone help ? Regards, Richard

11-02-2009, 06:33 AM	#2254
wilhelm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Age. Fac ut gaudeam! Age: 37 Posts: 1,494	Kero, I'll have to visit my friend who knew Rfn Thom well. I'll ask if he knows anything further. As to that 20mm gun mounted on the Casspir, I believe it was Koevoet who mounted that gun in the picture. AFAIK, that was a Hispano 20mm cannon that was taken out of an old Vampire jet fighter when it was retired. The Casspir's weapon station on the vehicle top just behind the front seats have seen many weapon systems mounted there over the years. 20mm cannon, 14,5mm and 12,7mm, most of which were field modifications. More official were single or twin Browning or FN 7,62mm machine guns in a factory mount/shield.

11-04-2009, 08:38 AM	#2256
GETSOME Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SOME WHERE OVER THE RAINBOW... Posts: 1,345	Thanks for the info on the stepouts guys.

11-11-2009, 07:29 AM	#2259
GETSOME Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SOME WHERE OVER THE RAINBOW... Posts: 1,345	Does anyone have a pic on the new infantry badge worn on the beret? Dankie Also are the para wings awarded to new parabats numbered?

11-14-2009, 05:30 AM	#2261
GETSOME Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SOME WHERE OVER THE RAINBOW... Posts: 1,345	^^^^ Thanks for that,is it in metal ? Also is the beret ,infantry the same colour as it was in the SADF?

11-16-2009, 04:44 PM	#2263
StrikeForce20 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Eternity Age: 24 Posts: 6	Where is a good site excluding Trident Military were I can buy Rhodesian camouflage..even old SADF would do..thanks

11-17-2009, 05:03 AM	#2264
playtym Saffie envoy for the League of Cantankerous Old Farts. Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Peoples Republic of Azania Posts: 8,904	Check out https://www.warstore.co.za/ Look under > Southern African Wars > Rhodesia You could also try http://www.aleckaplan.co.za/Medals-B.../View-category They regularly auction old Rhodesian kit I've bought from both and have never had any issues in my dealings with them. You're going to pay collector prices though.