Republican Guard Uniform

Trenchcoat · 01-30-2007, 02:38 AM

Hi Guys
Im new and love the site

I just picked up an Original Iraqi Republican Guard uniform.
I was just wondering if any of you know what the rareity or
propper way to wear the uniform especially the lanyard.

gaijinsamurai · 01-30-2007, 07:51 AM

Cool, Trenchcoat.
I collect militaria too. Welcome to the forum.

ICUS · 01-30-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Trenchcoat

Hi Guys
Im new and love the site

I just picked up an Original Iraqi Republican Guard uniform.
I was just wondering if any of you know what the rareity or
propper way to wear the uniform especially the lanyard.

Welcome to the forum.

It looks like what you have is probably a staff officer's uniform of the Regular Iraqi Army. I don't see any rank, but the scarlet loop on the epaulette usually indicates the officer is a graduate (or attendee) of the Staff College. As to the uniform being for a Republican Guard, I do not believe that is correct. The RG were generally recognized by the scarlet triangle sleeve badge (worn on both upper sleeves), and often wore a scarlet aguilette (or lanyard, as you've called it) made out of any number of materials. I have seen other coloured aguilettes worn with Iraqi uniforms, but so far have not encountered any reasonable explanation of what units wore them. White seems to me quite likely to be affiliated with Military Police units, but that is only a guess.

Surplus Iraqi uniforms are extremely common now, especially the wool and synthetic blend olive green and khaki ones worn by the majority of the conventional forces, and you can find any number of "special" uniforms being sold in street bazaars for very little money by local entrepeneurs. Most of these have been improperly badged up in a fanciful way utilizing the vast amounts of discarded insignia from the Hussein era. Which is not to say your uniform is a fake, but only that there are thousands of bogus uniforms out there.

The chest badge with the National crest and flag seems to be a late development.

Cheers,

Trenchcoat · 01-30-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ICUS

Welcome to the forum.

It looks like what you have is probably a staff officer's uniform of the Regular Iraqi Army. I don't see any rank, but the scarlet loop on the epaulette usually indicates the officer is a graduate (or attendee) of the Staff College. As to the uniform being for a Republican Guard, I do not believe that is correct. The RG were generally recognized by the scarlet triangle sleeve badge (worn on both upper sleeves), and often wore a scarlet aguilette (or lanyard, as you've called it) made out of any number of materials. I have seen other coloured aguilettes worn with Iraqi uniforms, but so far have not encountered any reasonable explanation of what units wore them. White seems to me quite likely to be affiliated with Military Police units, but that is only a guess.

Surplus Iraqi uniforms are extremely common now, especially the wool and synthetic blend olive green and khaki ones worn by the majority of the conventional forces, and you can find any number of "special" uniforms being sold in street bazaars for very little money by local entrepeneurs. Most of these have been improperly badged up in a fanciful way utilizing the vast amounts of discarded insignia from the Hussein era. Which is not to say your uniform is a fake, but only that there are thousands of bogus uniforms out there.

The chest badge with the National crest and flag seems to be a late development.

Cheers,

thanks alot for the knowledge

FROGFOOT-MKDN · 01-31-2007, 10:23 AM

You should parade with it in front of the White House, just to check Secret Service reaction time to a threat! lol

Trenchcoat · 01-31-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FROGFOOT-MKDN

You should parade with it in front of the White House, just to check Secret Service reaction time to a threat! lol

Then dress my brother up as Saddam Hussein and fire his rifle into the air

gaijinsamurai · 01-31-2007, 08:10 PM

Trenchcoat,
If you have a militaria-related question, I suggest you check out www.wehrmacht-awards.com discussion forum. There might be someone there who can help you. Most discussions are German WWII related, but there is still a diverse group of very knowledgable dealers and collectors.

Trenchcoat · 01-31-2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gaijinsamurai

Trenchcoat,
If you have a militaria-related question, I suggest you check out www.wehrmacht-awards.com discussion forum. There might be someone there who can help you. Most discussions are German WWII related, but there is still a diverse group of very knowledgable dealers and collectors.

sweet thanks

gaijinsamurai · 02-01-2007, 08:56 AM

Unfortunately, the site was down for a while today, so if the link I provided didn't work, either try again, or "google" it.

Alpha Leader · 02-01-2007, 09:07 AM

The ribbon is the same i got for walking the Nijmegenmarch.

oregongrunt · 03-06-2009, 10:03 AM

Nice uniform, I don't know if these uniforms will ever be worth anything. There's just so much of it out there.

PrinzEugen · 03-06-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by oregongrunt

Nice uniform, I don't know if these uniforms will ever be worth anything. There's just so much of it out there.

Yeah, but then again, thats what the scrap dealers said about Panther and Tiger tanks in 1946.....

commanding · 03-06-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Trenchcoat

Hi Guys
Im new and love the site

I just picked up an Original Iraqi Republican Guard uniform.
I was just wondering if any of you know what the rareity or
propper way to wear the uniform especially the lanyard.

Very nice uniform. When you store it, keep it wrapped in a plastic bag, like a cleaners bag, that kind of thing. You need to keep the moths off of it for long term....you can use moth balls, but they smell. Another option is cedar blocks and cedar chips in a cloth bag. if the uniform has wool in it ...the moths will try to eat it and leave holes over 20 years or so.
Store in a cedar chest wrapped in plastic is what I suggest. I had an old world war two marine uniform that had set in a cedar chest for 25 years that looked brand new. Light will fade the uniform also...so best keep in the dark and bring out on special occasions.
It is a good find, and despite what people say about the numbers..they said the same thing about Nazi helmets after WWII, including SS helmets, and camo helmets with wire, now they are priceless.
Time takes it's toll on all militaria.

china_police · 03-11-2009, 08:42 AM

How did you get hold of this uniform? Iraq?
I hope not from some dead Iraqi's body

Connaught Ranger · 03-11-2009, 11:14 AM

The belt is British Army "58 Pattern" if I am not mistaken, did it come with the uniform?

I concur the ribbon is of Dutch origin.

When buying Militaria you have to be aware of the unscrupulous dealer practice of "add on's"

First priority in the hobby of militaria is knowledge so reference material is a must.

01-30-2007, 02:38 AM	#1
Trenchcoat Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NZ Posts: 586	Republican Guard Uniform Hi Guys Im new and love the site I just picked up an Original Iraqi Republican Guard uniform. I was just wondering if any of you know what the rareity or propper way to wear the uniform especially the lanyard.

01-30-2007, 07:51 AM	#2
gaijinsamurai Redneck in denial Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 11,805	Cool, Trenchcoat. I collect militaria too. Welcome to the forum.

01-31-2007, 10:23 AM	#5
FROGFOOT-MKDN Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Skopje, Macedonia Age: 30 Posts: 233	You should parade with it in front of the White House, just to check Secret Service reaction time to a threat! lol

01-31-2007, 08:10 PM	#7
gaijinsamurai Redneck in denial Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 11,805	Trenchcoat, If you have a militaria-related question, I suggest you check out www.wehrmacht-awards.com discussion forum. There might be someone there who can help you. Most discussions are German WWII related, but there is still a diverse group of very knowledgable dealers and collectors.

02-01-2007, 08:56 AM	#9
gaijinsamurai Redneck in denial Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 11,805	Unfortunately, the site was down for a while today, so if the link I provided didn't work, either try again, or "google" it.

02-01-2007, 09:07 AM	#10
Alpha Leader Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: in the forrest,amongst small people hmnahmna Age: 40 Posts: 1,406	The ribbon is the same i got for walking the Nijmegenmarch.

03-06-2009, 10:03 AM	#11
oregongrunt Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Circus Posts: 1,524	Nice uniform, I don't know if these uniforms will ever be worth anything. There's just so much of it out there.

03-11-2009, 08:42 AM	#14
china_police Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 485	How did you get hold of this uniform? Iraq? I hope not from some dead Iraqi's body

03-11-2009, 11:14 AM	#15
Connaught Ranger Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Garlic Fields of Transylvania, Romania. Age: 51 Posts: 6,901	The belt is British Army "58 Pattern" if I am not mistaken, did it come with the uniform? I concur the ribbon is of Dutch origin. When buying Militaria you have to be aware of the unscrupulous dealer practice of "add on's" First priority in the hobby of militaria is knowledge so reference material is a must.