NEWS ONLY........... Georgia/Russian Conflict.. NO Comment/debate

[CMN]

Originally Posted by drgonzo777

Since whene Chechen army owned 128 Tank as Georgia? Since when the Chechen army had 100an odd artilery??? How long the Chechen airforce last???? 2 hr???

You've changed the parameters of your argument without addressing the initial issue. How surprising...

[Kangars]

Originally Posted by Ought Six

According to a CNN supposed expert, there is only one road leading over the mountains from Russia to South Ossetia. That would make resupply for Russian armored formations a very difficult proposition. If the Georgians can successfully harrass and compromise their supply lines, the Russian advance could grind to a halt pretty quickly.

Your armchair has a crack, be careful!

[Norsu]

There are two possible supply routes. One that goes by the mountains and one that goes through a tunnel named Roki. Not sure if Russians are using just one or both routes as I've read different reports of this.

[The Balkan]

Originally Posted by drgonzo777

Since whene Chechen army owned 128 Tank as Georgia? Since when the Chechen army had 100an odd artilery??? How long the Chechen airforce last???? 2 hr???

Do some research - Chechna nver have the same capacity then Georgia have! Chechna never have the same political support behind the goverment.

It is only common signs but nothing to compare - see the photos here - then go - and the photos about the chechen rebels arond 2006-2007... Georgia have tanks - they have a Koran and an Ak-47...
not the same man!

No doubt about Chechens having the better moral (back then anyway) though. Exactly cuz they're so outmatched.

[drgonzo777]

Originally Posted by CMN

You've changed the parameters of your argument without addressing the initial issue. How surprising...

Why you think that? I just try to suggest - Georgia IS a long lasting independent country. Clearly under US influence.

As far I remember the Chechen rebels no got the same international backing then Georgia have. Chechna no got the army what Georgia have. Chechna have issues, but not this kind of teritorial issues...

I might change the parameters of my argument, but for me! it seems like a full scale army operation what we dealing not a gerilla war from the georgian side - and there's a full scale russian army support a nother regular force...
I do not see the simularity jet! You might be right in a longer therm, if this conflict escalate and Georgia occupy the South Ossethian theritory! You might gona be right if gerillas start terror actions inside Georgia.
But jet - it's two regular army fighting.
Supporting my point - the last two days there's a loads of political wow's and statements changed. It is not like the chechen conflict was where was no political disussion in the same level.

I'm absolutely open for your oppinion, cause the caucasia usuly have the same looking hot conflict's. But Jet! I saw two regular army fighting, later it might escalete and go to a gerilla war. If it's happen's - you gona have your point well right!

[kordelas]

Originally Posted by drgonzo777

Georgia have tanks - they have a Koran and an Ak-47...
not the same man!

Georgians are christians so you schould rather say ,they have Bible and ak-47

[drgonzo777]

Originally Posted by The Balkan

No doubt about Chechens having the better moral (back then anyway) though. Exactly cuz they're so outmatched.

The Chechens have the moral background as they been attacked in they'r homeland though.
South Ossethia is mainly lived by russian cityzens if I'm righ. If not - please reply.

[drgonzo777]

Originally Posted by kordelas

Georgians are christians so you schould rather say ,they have Bible and ak-47

my bad english - the original sentence regard "Georgians have tanks - Chechens have the Koran and AK's"

[wildcat12]

Originally Posted by drgonzo777

South Ossethia is mainly lived by russian cityzens if I'm righ. If not - please reply.

I believe the citizens were created by Russia to gain motive, I believe they were handing out passport left right and center.

[drgonzo777]

Originally Posted by wildcat12

I believe the citizens were created by Russia to gain motive, I believe they were handing out passport left right and center.

I accept that. Being a civil in a conflict zone is much about survive and less about politic.

[Qandil]

Would russia use this....in the fighting?

[cinoeye]

Is Nato ready to bomb Georgia?

[He219]

^ Nice irrelavent picture.

A Russian NTV channel television grab Georgian helicopters moving against separatist South Ossetian troops at an unnamed location not far from Tskhinvali on August 8, 2008. A Russian military convoy entered the breakaway Georgian region of South Ossetia on Friday, Russia's three main news agencies reported, citing witnesses.

A column of Russian armored vehicles, headed towards the breakaway Georgian republic of South Ossetia's capital Tskhinvali, is seen in North Ossetia, Russia, Friday, Aug. 8, 2008

Local residents look at a Russian armored vehicle heading towards the breakaway Georgian province of South Ossetia, in North Ossetia, Russia, Friday, Aug. 8, 2008. Russia sent columns of tanks and reportedly bombed Georgian air bases Friday after Georgia launched a major military offensive Friday to retake the breakaway province of South Ossetia, threatening to ignite a broader conflict. Hundreds of civilians were reported dead in the worst outbreak of hostilities since the province won defacto independence in a war against Georgia that ended in 1992. Witnesses said the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali was devastated.

Russian soldiers are seen atop an armored vehicle at an unknown location in the breakaway Georgian province of South Ossetia, Friday, Aug. 8, 2008. A sudden military offensive by Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, reportedly killed hundreds of people Friday in the separatist region of South Ossetia and threatened to off a wider war with Russia. The fighting started when Georgia launched an attack to retake a breakaway province, followed by Russia sending in tanks and reportedly attacking two air bases in Georgia.

Originally Posted by Hrvoje

Hmmm inded
with gun

Isn't that a Kord HMG?

A Russian soldier looks on while sitting atop a tank at an unknown location in the breakaway Georgian province of South Ossetia, Friday, Aug. 8, 2008

Part of a projectile is seen at the site of a Georgian strike, at an unknown location in the breakaway Georgian province of South Ossetia, Friday, Aug. 8, 2008. Russia sent columns of tanks and reportedly bombed Georgian air bases Friday after Georgia launched a military offensive to retake the breakaway province of South Ossetia, threatening to ignite a broader conflict. Hundreds of civilians were reported dead in the worst outbreak of hostilities since the province won de facto independence in a war against Georgia that ended in 1992. Witnesses said the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali was devastated.

South Ossetian separatist militants are seen at an unknown location in the breakaway Georgian province of South Ossetia, Friday, Aug. 8, 2008. A surprise military offensive by Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, to retake the breakaway province of South Ossetia reportedly killed hundreds of people Friday, triggering a ferocious counterattack from Russia that threatened to plunge the region into full-scale war.

Originally Posted by cinoeye

Is Nato ready to bomb Georgia?

No, perhaps Russia for invading Georgia.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

Originally Posted by drgonzo777

I'm still not belive the 1400 death as SO+russian loss. It is too much under 2 day.
Civilians death is still not confirmed... shame on both side. Civil hospital records shoud be reveald!

Betcha they have some catching up to do on the records

[Sousuke]

This totaly sucks...reminds me somewhat of Kosovo, but the situation is different now. Russia has all rights to be pissed off, Georgia was asking for it...Its sad that in every conflict civilians get to pull the shortest straw...Why the hell bombard the center of a town!? Especialy on the day of the opening of the Olimpics!?! Asses...