anyone collect OLD military helmets ? Worldwide? pix?

commanding · 10-29-2009, 09:07 AM

wondering if anyone collects old military helmets, from all over the world? I find them interesting and have a small collection, thought if others collect them we might post photos of them....anyone???

Pandemonium · 10-29-2009, 09:20 AM

I've only got a German helmet m1935 from the ss, I don't have it with me at the time, so no pics, maybe later. It isn't in a good shape anymore (A large part of it's interior Leather is missing and some paint is missing) cause it had been lying in a swamp in Latvia together with his owner for over 60 years, poor bastard.
But I'm considering to expend my collection over the years.

commanding · 10-29-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pandemonium

I've only got a German helmet m1935 from the ss, I don't have it with me at the time, so no pics, maybe later. It isn't in a good shape anymore (A large part of it's interior Leather is missing and some paint is missing) cause it had been lying in a swamp in Latvia together with his owner for over 60 years, poor bastard.
But I'm considering to expend my collection over the years.

well when you can take a photo and post it, that would be great. I used to have about 8 or 10 world war II German helmets and i sold them all a few years ago as the undug ones bring a lot of money in the USA.
So I don't have any German WWII anymore, still have some old photos I can scan if interested.
I do have Italian WWII, a couple of French helments same era and Japanese helmets same era, some British and USA helmets of various eras, as well as odds and ends.
the German WWII helmets are very interesting to me due to the variety of types of helmets they issued as the war dragged on (M42, M35, as well as civilian helmets for police, firefighting etc.)

commanding · 10-29-2009, 10:32 AM

will post some pix of some of my old mil. helmets. I am not sure of the age, or country of origin of some of them. can't post all of them (pix) right now as time is limited.
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I believe a Spanish copy of the German pre wwii helmets:

Japanese WWII helmet shell later used by Siam:

believe a Portugese helmet age not known:

rusty old shell of WWI helmet think French..missing comb on top

flat "doughboy" type helmet either Brit or US, will post inside markings:

marking on inside of above helmet:

post Vietnam war vietnam pith helmet:

unknown country, perhaps Sweden

oops, British late 1944 tortise type helmet)

I think this is Portugese:

above helmet inside showing leather web/padding:

CMN · 10-29-2009, 10:39 AM

Try gaijinsamurai, he's got a pretty sweet militaria thing going on.

commanding · 10-29-2009, 10:48 AM

few more pix:

derusted and repainted French shell circa WWI:

another doughboy style helmet (ww1 type), this one was supposedly used in the Israel six day war in 1967:

helmet above inside view:

front view Swedish helmet, camo paint original, age not known:

same Swede helmet as above, side view showing decals:

above helmet inside view showing webbing/pad:

shiftypowpow · 10-29-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by commanding

few more pix:

derusted and repainted French shell circa WWI:

Whats that ridge? Any other angles?

Cool collection BTW

commanding · 10-29-2009, 10:58 AM

a few more:

another shell, rust removed and repainted for preservation, Frechn ww1 with comb:

another WWII japanese shell, later used by Siam:

above helmet inside showing what appears to be original japanese markings in paint

and just because it was there, a canteen which I think is German (may be wrong) WWII, missing all of the straps etc:

commanding · 10-29-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by shiftypowpow

Whats that ridge? Any other angles?

Cool collection BTW

i think the ridge is called a "comb" and was used by some of armies on helmets in WWI. I can get top view pix.

Heres is a top view of three of the French WWI helmets with the "comb" on top, you can see difference in each helmet. top one is made from two pieces of steel and there is a ridge around the middle where the two pcs of steel meet. the comb is fastened with bolts on 2 of these, and on the third I think it is either welded or ??

Linedoggie · 10-29-2009, 11:29 AM

I may be wrong, but the Mle 1915 Adrian should be a blue grey for WWI and there should be a front badge

Dont have pics available right now, in the middle of moving

But so far have a
M1917 Helmet
2X M1 front seam McCords w/ westinghouse liners
M1 front seam Schlueter w/ Unk. liner
M40 Stahlhelm (double decal)
Soviet Ssh 40? I found in Iraq
Japanese Navy helmet, no liner, cover rotted
PASGT-1985 issue (- a bro from 2/4 IN Hollbrien)
ACH
The only one which cost me anyhting was the ACH.

Connaught Ranger · 10-29-2009, 11:40 AM

The black one you think is Swedish is British known as the Tortoise and introduced in late 1944.

This might be of some help with regards your items:-

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milita...ollectorsclub/

Adrian helmets were used by:-

France,

Belgium,

Italy,

Imperial Russia,

Imperial Romania,

Peru,

Japan,

China,

U.K. (Used by RAF ground personnel early WW2)

Greece,

Nationalist China.

Trialed by the Republic of Ireland and rejected for a Vicker's Copy of the German stahlhelm.

commanding · 10-29-2009, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Connaught Ranger

The black one you think is Swedish is British known as the Tortoise and introduced in late 1944.

This might be of some help with regards your items:-

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milita...ollectorsclub/

Adrian helmets were used by:-

France,

Belgium,

Italy,

Imperial Russia,

Imperial Romania,

Peru,

Japan,

China,

U.K. (Used by RAF ground personel early WW2)

dang, now that you say that I do remember it is called an Adrian helmet. Never knew who used them though other than I seem to remember it was Brit. made.
thanks for the info/link.

commanding · 10-29-2009, 11:46 AM

a few more...more modern types etc:
believe this is east German as used in partitioned Berlin post WWII..

this is a US "civil defense" steel helmet used by civil defense wardens during WWII, normally had a decal on front, this one didn't

USA steel pot, with liner, and a british camo net:

liner that is in above steel pot:

another US steel pot, slightly different color and texture: (again with british camo net i believe)

commanding · 10-29-2009, 11:53 AM

last few:

a US helmet liner, painted for use by MPs..side view:

front view:

a US steel pot, CHROMED for use by gawd knows what, likely ROTC or something...similar one was in the movie "Animal House" worn by the hated ROTC commander:

pretty funny, hooah?

Sneeuwbaard · 10-29-2009, 12:35 PM

Dutch M34 numero #1.

Has 2 decals of the 'Schalkhaar politie' on it, an Dutch police unit trained and educated by the Höhere SS- und Polizeiführer Nordwest (of Hanns Albin Rauter.)
Everyone who wanted to work for the police was send to that school in Schalkhaar, explaining the name. Original green paint (Dutch Military standard) is still visible.
The unit still has a bad name due to it's involvement in razzia's against jews in The Hague and Amsterdam, while there were also a number of 'Resistance fighters' in it.

Front plate is missing, seeing it was made out of copper and it reflected light in the evening as they had to be polished. Alot of soldiers removed the plate due to that reason.

Dutch M34 numero #2.

If I have to believe it's previous owner this helmet belonged to a soldier who fought in 'Ockenburgh', a land property which used to be an military airfield, which got attacked by the 3./Fallschirmjäger Regiment 2 (and some other units of the 22nd Luftlande Division & other Infantry Units which were not supposed to land there) on 10 May 1940.
It ended up in his attic for 66 years.
*Not really spectaculair, but I live near Ockenburgh so it has a personal value.*

(Front plate missing also..)

German M42 with winter camouflage.

A friend bought it as souvenir on his journey to Poland.

British/Canadian helmet found by a farmer near my Aunts house.

Perhaps a relic of the Breskens Pocket/Operation Switchback. (Part of the battle of the Scheldt.)

10-29-2009, 10:32 AM	#4
commanding Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Good day pusscake! Age: 62 Posts: 2,253	will post some pix of some of my old mil. helmets. I am not sure of the age, or country of origin of some of them. can't post all of them (pix) right now as time is limited. ---------------- I believe a Spanish copy of the German pre wwii helmets: Japanese WWII helmet shell later used by Siam: believe a Portugese helmet age not known: rusty old shell of WWI helmet think French..missing comb on top flat "doughboy" type helmet either Brit or US, will post inside markings: marking on inside of above helmet: post Vietnam war vietnam pith helmet: unknown country, perhaps Swedenoops, British late 1944 tortise type helmet) I think this is Portugese: above helmet inside showing leather web/padding: Last edited by commanding; 10-29-2009 at 12:31 PM.

10-29-2009, 11:40 AM	#11
Connaught Ranger Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Garlic Fields of Transylvania, Romania. Age: 51 Posts: 6,910	The black one you think is Swedish is British known as the Tortoise and introduced in late 1944. This might be of some help with regards your items:- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milita...ollectorsclub/ Adrian helmets were used by:- France, Belgium, Italy, Imperial Russia, Imperial Romania, Peru, Japan, China, U.K. (Used by RAF ground personnel early WW2) Greece, Nationalist China. Trialed by the Republic of Ireland and rejected for a Vicker's Copy of the German stahlhelm. Last edited by Connaught Ranger; 10-29-2009 at 12:58 PM. Reason: additional info.

10-29-2009, 11:46 AM	#13
commanding Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Good day pusscake! Age: 62 Posts: 2,253	a few more...more modern types etc: believe this is east German as used in partitioned Berlin post WWII.. this is a US "civil defense" steel helmet used by civil defense wardens during WWII, normally had a decal on front, this one didn't USA steel pot, with liner, and a british camo net: liner that is in above steel pot: another US steel pot, slightly different color and texture: (again with british camo net i believe) Last edited by commanding; 10-29-2009 at 12:48 PM.

10-29-2009, 09:07 AM	#1
commanding Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Good day pusscake! Age: 62 Posts: 2,253	anyone collect OLD military helmets ? Worldwide? pix? wondering if anyone collects old military helmets, from all over the world? I find them interesting and have a small collection, thought if others collect them we might post photos of them....anyone???

10-29-2009, 09:20 AM	#2
Pandemonium Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belgium Posts: 265	I've only got a German helmet m1935 from the ss, I don't have it with me at the time, so no pics, maybe later. It isn't in a good shape anymore (A large part of it's interior Leather is missing and some paint is missing) cause it had been lying in a swamp in Latvia together with his owner for over 60 years, poor bastard. But I'm considering to expend my collection over the years.

10-29-2009, 10:39 AM	#5
CMN Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK/RSA Posts: 3,743	Try gaijinsamurai, he's got a pretty sweet militaria thing going on.

10-29-2009, 10:48 AM	#6
commanding Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Good day pusscake! Age: 62 Posts: 2,253	few more pix: derusted and repainted French shell circa WWI: another doughboy style helmet (ww1 type), this one was supposedly used in the Israel six day war in 1967: helmet above inside view: front view Swedish helmet, camo paint original, age not known: same Swede helmet as above, side view showing decals: above helmet inside view showing webbing/pad:

10-29-2009, 10:58 AM	#8
commanding Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Good day pusscake! Age: 62 Posts: 2,253	a few more: another shell, rust removed and repainted for preservation, Frechn ww1 with comb: another WWII japanese shell, later used by Siam: above helmet inside showing what appears to be original japanese markings in paint and just because it was there, a canteen which I think is German (may be wrong) WWII, missing all of the straps etc:

10-29-2009, 11:29 AM	#10
Linedoggie If anyone needs a damn fool, i'm your man Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Escaping from New York Posts: 6,682	I may be wrong, but the Mle 1915 Adrian should be a blue grey for WWI and there should be a front badge Dont have pics available right now, in the middle of moving But so far have a M1917 Helmet 2X M1 front seam McCords w/ westinghouse liners M1 front seam Schlueter w/ Unk. liner M40 Stahlhelm (double decal) Soviet Ssh 40? I found in Iraq Japanese Navy helmet, no liner, cover rotted PASGT-1985 issue (- a bro from 2/4 IN Hollbrien) ACH The only one which cost me anyhting was the ACH.

10-29-2009, 11:53 AM	#14
commanding Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Good day pusscake! Age: 62 Posts: 2,253	last few: a US helmet liner, painted for use by MPs..side view: front view: a US steel pot, CHROMED for use by gawd knows what, likely ROTC or something...similar one was in the movie "Animal House" worn by the hated ROTC commander: pretty funny, hooah?

10-29-2009, 12:35 PM	#15
Sneeuwbaard Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Netherlands Posts: 24	Dutch M34 numero #1. Has 2 decals of the 'Schalkhaar politie' on it, an Dutch police unit trained and educated by the Höhere SS- und Polizeiführer Nordwest (of Hanns Albin Rauter.) Everyone who wanted to work for the police was send to that school in Schalkhaar, explaining the name. Original green paint (Dutch Military standard) is still visible. The unit still has a bad name due to it's involvement in razzia's against jews in The Hague and Amsterdam, while there were also a number of 'Resistance fighters' in it. Front plate is missing, seeing it was made out of copper and it reflected light in the evening as they had to be polished. Alot of soldiers removed the plate due to that reason. Dutch M34 numero #2. If I have to believe it's previous owner this helmet belonged to a soldier who fought in 'Ockenburgh', a land property which used to be an military airfield, which got attacked by the 3./Fallschirmjäger Regiment 2 (and some other units of the 22nd Luftlande Division & other Infantry Units which were not supposed to land there) on 10 May 1940. It ended up in his attic for 66 years. Not really spectaculair, but I live near Ockenburgh so it has a personal value. (Front plate missing also..) German M42 with winter camouflage. A friend bought it as souvenir on his journey to Poland. British/Canadian helmet found by a farmer near my Aunts house. Perhaps a relic of the Breskens Pocket/Operation Switchback. (Part of the battle of the Scheldt.)