Has Pneumonic Plague Hit Ukraine?‏

estonian · 11-03-2009, 10:23 AM

very disturbing news

http://mignews.com.ua/en/categ386/articles/376396.html

http://blogs.healthfreedomalliance.o...umonic-plague/

in russian -

http://www.regnum.ru/news/1220504.html

Dextermination · 11-03-2009, 11:02 AM

It's A H1N1.

jaybee · 11-03-2009, 12:21 PM

my opinion this fake is to crash a poll

gazell · 11-03-2009, 12:42 PM

God knows, what it is, but sure a lot of panic, circus, quite a number of sudden deaths and all sorts of different information by politicians and medical professionals in the media. People invaded Hungarian pharmacies for vaccines and protective clothing, so Hungary and Slovakia are sending some stuff over. I read somewhere that Slovakia closed the border crossings, don't know, if that's correct.

The Hungarian center for pandemics did not release any new information yet.

Connaught Ranger · 11-03-2009, 01:26 PM

Its A H1N1 / Swine Flu, its also in Romania

but they are not running around like headless chickens in panic.

lightfire · 11-03-2009, 02:24 PM

Goodbye Ukraine

Universal_Soldier · 11-03-2009, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaybee

my opinion this fake is to crash a poll

I've always thought the Hysteria was quite sudden. I'm pretty sure that something is happening but the politicians are trying to exploit the situation to their advantage particularly those politicians with no chance of wining.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazell

I read somewhere that Slovakia closed the border crossings, don't know, if that's correct.

Yes it is, not just Slovakia though, also Russia, Poland, Belarus, Czech are either closing bother or increasing monitoring.

Mastermind · 11-03-2009, 03:33 PM

That is the trouble with politics and the public perception of potential disaster.

Politicians will always try to capitalize on any mass state problem...instantly accusing the present power structure of failure to protect the public, hoping for a mass hysteria that will cause some sort of power vacuum. It is a quick way to grab the reins of power...and it has been going on since the days of the Roman Republic.

Present H1N1 jitters have been getting political attention as the present power elitists recognize it as a potential way to consolidate power under a "Global" umbrella...that movement has been going on for some time. God help us all if some real disastrous and easily communicable "perfect" disease comes along.

Just like the I.O. Tsunami and the New Orleans Katrina disasters, government will really be of very little help. Government structures just do not work in the face of really huge disasters. You are better to become as self sufficient as possible. Never, ever rely on government alone to protect you. You will be deathly disappointed.

gazell · 11-03-2009, 04:13 PM

^^Exactly the problem, it is very likely could be clever sh%t stirring of the sort that we cannot ignore though, just in case it is not. That would cost a lot more possibly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Connaught Ranger

Its A H1N1 / Swine Flu, its also in Romania

but they are not running around like headless chickens in panic.

Yes, we do know, what's in Romania - which I'm told being a bit of a nasty case of H1N1. The Ukraine is however, a lot of a mess. Some chief of pandemics there said: 71 deaths, 3 were identified with H1N1. He could lie that, but why would others too? Then you just gotta make certain for yourself...

A lotta troubles with this country.

DRA · 11-03-2009, 04:58 PM

What if someone, let's just call that someone "current administration", wants January elections postponed? A blown out of proportion epidemic would make an excellent excuse...

Connaught Ranger · 11-03-2009, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazell

^^Exactly the problem, it is very likely could be clever sh%t stirring of the sort that we cannot ignore though, just in case it is not. That would cost a lot more possibly.

Yes, we do know, what's in Romania - which I'm told being a bit of a nasty case of H1N1. The Ukraine is however, a lot of a mess. Some chief of pandemics there said: 71 deaths, 3 were identified with H1N1. He could lie that, but why would others too? Then you just gotta make certain for yourself...

A lotta troubles with this country.

No! you might know,

(but I still exercise my right to post on a public forum)

Your other point referring to Romania, Moldova, or Ukraine.

Connaught Ranger.

(the voice of sanity from the depths of depraved Transylvania)

gazell · 11-03-2009, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Connaught Ranger

No! you might know,

(but I still exercise my right to post on a public forum)

Your other point referring to Romania, Moldova, or Ukraine.

Connaught Ranger.

(the voice of sanity from the depths of depraved Transylvania)

Heh?

You really would deserve the title of The PC Ghost With Vengeance.

I really cannot see, what other point there is to your post on the topic.

ATA · 11-03-2009, 06:28 PM

Deepest condolences to families of passed away and best wishes to ill ones!
I hope no bitching will cause anything well worth wishing in return...

TakeIt · 11-03-2009, 07:07 PM

Yes, we have a state alert and quarantine. For example i can't receive new shipment from Kyiv, since transportation is forbidden temporarily. Schools and kindergartens are closed, 1 week to 3. Wasn't allowed to enter municipall hall yesterday, we were joking that are dear dupatats are affraid that someone with the flu would bit them. Price for garlic, onions rose 1,5-2 times. Lemons dissapeared also. People are wearing masks. Public places, stores, even hairdressing shops are monitored so the personnell is wearing masks and perfoms a wet cleaning regularily.

Regarding politicians, indeed Timoshenko already exploited the situation to promote herself. Real PR on the bones.

TheMacedonian · 11-03-2009, 10:07 PM

There is a book called the "Moscow vector" that talks about dna virus spread by the Russians into Ukraine as a first step prior to an invasion.

Just my 5c worth ...

why is this virus limited to Western Ukraine?

11-03-2009, 10:23 AM	#1
estonian Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tallinn Posts: 105	Has Pneumonic Plague Hit Ukraine?‏ very disturbing news http://mignews.com.ua/en/categ386/articles/376396.html http://blogs.healthfreedomalliance.o...umonic-plague/ in russian - http://www.regnum.ru/news/1220504.html

11-03-2009, 11:02 AM	#2
Dextermination Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 306	It's A H1N1.

11-03-2009, 12:21 PM	#3
jaybee Banned user Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Koenigsberg, pRussia Posts: 6	my opinion this fake is to crash a poll

11-03-2009, 12:42 PM	#4
gazell Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 786	God knows, what it is, but sure a lot of panic, circus, quite a number of sudden deaths and all sorts of different information by politicians and medical professionals in the media. People invaded Hungarian pharmacies for vaccines and protective clothing, so Hungary and Slovakia are sending some stuff over. I read somewhere that Slovakia closed the border crossings, don't know, if that's correct. The Hungarian center for pandemics did not release any new information yet.

11-03-2009, 01:26 PM	#5
Connaught Ranger Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Garlic Fields of Transylvania, Romania. Age: 51 Posts: 6,910	Its A H1N1 / Swine Flu, its also in Romania but they are not running around like headless chickens in panic.

11-03-2009, 02:24 PM	#6
lightfire I think I know everything, but I don't Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,793	Goodbye Ukraine

11-03-2009, 03:33 PM	#8
Mastermind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nevada USA Posts: 4,881	That is the trouble with politics and the public perception of potential disaster. Politicians will always try to capitalize on any mass state problem...instantly accusing the present power structure of failure to protect the public, hoping for a mass hysteria that will cause some sort of power vacuum. It is a quick way to grab the reins of power...and it has been going on since the days of the Roman Republic. Present H1N1 jitters have been getting political attention as the present power elitists recognize it as a potential way to consolidate power under a "Global" umbrella...that movement has been going on for some time. God help us all if some real disastrous and easily communicable "perfect" disease comes along. Just like the I.O. Tsunami and the New Orleans Katrina disasters, government will really be of very little help. Government structures just do not work in the face of really huge disasters. You are better to become as self sufficient as possible. Never, ever rely on government alone to protect you. You will be deathly disappointed.

11-03-2009, 04:58 PM	#10
DRA Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 324	What if someone, let's just call that someone "current administration", wants January elections postponed? A blown out of proportion epidemic would make an excellent excuse...

11-03-2009, 06:28 PM	#13
ATA Banned user Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Over the mountains Posts: 125	Deepest condolences to families of passed away and best wishes to ill ones! I hope no bitching will cause anything well worth wishing in return...

11-03-2009, 07:07 PM	#14
TakeIt Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Center of Europe Posts: 516	Yes, we have a state alert and quarantine. For example i can't receive new shipment from Kyiv, since transportation is forbidden temporarily. Schools and kindergartens are closed, 1 week to 3. Wasn't allowed to enter municipall hall yesterday, we were joking that are dear dupatats are affraid that someone with the flu would bit them. Price for garlic, onions rose 1,5-2 times. Lemons dissapeared also. People are wearing masks. Public places, stores, even hairdressing shops are monitored so the personnell is wearing masks and perfoms a wet cleaning regularily. Regarding politicians, indeed Timoshenko already exploited the situation to promote herself. Real PR on the bones.

11-03-2009, 10:07 PM	#15
TheMacedonian Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Diplomacy is the art of telling someone to go to Hell in such a way that he looks fwd to the journey Posts: 840	There is a book called the "Moscow vector" that talks about dna virus spread by the Russians into Ukraine as a first step prior to an invasion. Just my 5c worth ... why is this virus limited to Western Ukraine?