Fort Hood's 9/11

Sand Man · 11-07-2009, 05:54 AM

Fort Hood's 9/11
Islamist terror strikes U.S. again
November 6, 2009
Ralph Peters

On Thursday afternoon, a radicalized Muslim US Army officer shouting "Allahu Akbar!" committed the worst act of terror on American soil since 9/11.

And no one wants to call it an act of terror or associate it with Islam.

What cowards we are. Political correctness killed those patriotic Americans at Ft. Hood as surely as the Islamist gunman did. And the media treat it like a case of non-denominational shoplifting.

This was a terrorist act. When an extremist plans and executes a murderous plot against our unarmed soldiers to protest our efforts to counter Islamist fanatics, it’s an act of terror. Period.

When the terrorist posts anti-American hate-speech on the Web; apparently praises suicide bombers and uses his own name; loudly criticizes US policies; argues (as a psychiatrist, no less) with his military patients over the worth of their sacrifices; refuses, in the name of Islam, to be photographed with female colleagues; lists his nationality as "Palestinian" in a Muslim spouse-matching program, and parades around central Texas in a fundamentalist playsuit — well, it only seems fair to call this terrorist an "Islamist terrorist."

But the president won’t. Despite his promise to get to all the facts. Because there’s no such thing as "Islamist terrorism" in ObamaWorld.

And the Army won’t. Because its senior leaders are so sick with political correctness that pandering to America-haters is safer than calling terrorism "terrorism."

And the media won’t. Because they have more interest in the shooter than in our troops — despite their crocodile tears.

Maj. Nadal Malik Hasan planned this terrorist attack and executed it in cold blood. The resulting massacre was the first tragedy. The second was that he wasn’t killed on the spot.

Hasan survived. Now the rest of us will have to foot his massive medical bills. Activist lawyers will get involved, claiming "harassment" drove him temporarily insane. There’ll be no end of trial delays. At best, taxpayer dollars will fund his prison lifestyle for decades to come, since our politically correct Army leadership wouldn’t dare pursue or carry out the death penalty.

Maj. Hasan will be a hero to Islamist terrorists abroad and their sympathizers here. While US Muslim organizations decry his acts publicly, Hasan will be praised privately. And he’ll have the last laugh.

But Hasan isn’t the sole guilty party. The US Army’s unforgivable political correctness is also to blame for the casualties at Ft. Hood.

Given the myriad warning signs, it’s appalling that no action was taken against a man apparently known to praise suicide bombers and openly damn US policy. But no officer in his chain of command, either at Walter Reed Army Medical Center or at Ft. Hood, had the guts to take meaningful action against a dysfunctional soldier and an incompetent doctor.

Had Hasan been a Lutheran or a Methodist, he would’ve been gone with the simoon. But officers fear charges of discrimination when faced with misconduct among protected minorities.

Now 12 soldiers and a security guard lie dead. 31 soldiers were wounded, 28 of them seriously. If heads don’t roll in this maggot’s chain of command, the Army will have shamed itself beyond moral redemption.

There’s another important issue, too. How could the Army allow an obviously incompetent and dysfunctional psychiatrist to treat our troubled soldiers returning from war? An Islamist whacko is counseled for arguing with veterans who’ve been assigned to his care? And he’s not removed from duty? What planet does the Army live on?

For the first time since I joined the Army in 1976, I’m ashamed of its dereliction of duty. The chain of command protected a budding terrorist who was waving one red flag after another. Because it was safer for careers than doing something about him.

Get ready for the apologias. We’ve already heard from the terrorist’s family that "he’s a good American." In their world, maybe he is.

But when do we, the American public, knock off the PC nonsense?

A disgruntled Muslim soldier murdered his officers way back in 2003, in Kuwait, on the eve of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Recently? An American mullah shoots it out with the feds in Detroit. A Muslim fanatic attacks an Arkansas recruiting station. A Muslim media owner, after playing the peace card, beheads his wife. A Muslim father runs over his daughter because she’s becoming too Westernized.

Muslim terrorist wannabes are busted again and again. And we’re assured that "Islam’s a religion of peace."

I guarantee you that the Obama administration’s non-response to the Ft. Hood attack will mock the memory of our dead.

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wagon · 11-07-2009, 06:00 AM

Food for thought.

I sense a flamewar coming, unfortunately.

budgie · 11-07-2009, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sand Man

Fort Hood's 9/11
Islamist terror strikes U.S. again
November 6, 2009
Ralph Peters

On Thursday afternoon, a radicalized Muslim US Army officer shouting "Allahu Akbar!" committed the worst act of terror on American soil since 9/11.

And no one wants to call it an act of terror or associate it with Islam.

What cowards we are. Political correctness killed those patriotic Americans at Ft. Hood as surely as the Islamist gunman did. And the media treat it like a case of non-denominational shoplifting.

What political correctness? Allowing a Muslim to serve? Shoplifting? The Media make light of this crime? Examples?

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But the president won’t. Despite his promise to get to all the facts. Because there’s no such thing as "Islamist terrorism" in ObamaWorld.

Oh I get it now....

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And the Army won’t. Because its senior leaders are so sick with political correctness that pandering to America-haters is safer than calling terrorism "terrorism."

And the media won’t. Because they have more interest in the shooter than in our troops — despite their crocodile tears.

Opinion. Pure unsubstantiated opinion.

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Maj. Nadal Malik Hasan planned this terrorist attack and executed it in cold blood. The resulting massacre was the first tragedy. The second was that he wasn’t killed on the spot.

Hasan survived. Now the rest of us will have to foot his massive medical bills.

Oh snap! Obama's free commie healthcare will help terrorists! And I supposed there's no need to keep this guy alive to FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED?

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Activist lawyers will get involved, claiming "harassment" drove him temporarily insane. There’ll be no end of trial delays.

That's right, John Edwards will pull his pecker out of a secretary and rush to the courthouse. Dammit thought we'd seen the last of him!

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Maj. Hasan will be a hero to Islamist terrorists abroad and their sympathizers here. While US Muslim organizations decry his acts publicly, Hasan will be praised privately. And he’ll have the last laugh.

Hard to laugh on a respirator.

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But Hasan isn’t the sole guilty party. The US Army’s unforgivable political correctness is also to blame for the casualties at Ft. Hood.

Given the myriad warning signs, it’s appalling that no action was taken against a man apparently known to praise suicide bombers and openly damn US policy. But no officer in his chain of command, either at Walter Reed Army Medical Center or at Ft. Hood, had the guts to take meaningful action against a dysfunctional soldier and an incompetent doctor.

Had Hasan been a Lutheran or a Methodist, he would’ve been gone with the simoon. But officers fear charges of discrimination when faced with misconduct among protected minorities.

Oh no need for an investigation now. This clown apparently knows everything.

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There’s another important issue, too. How could the Army allow an obviously incompetent and dysfunctional psychiatrist to treat our troubled soldiers returning from war? An Islamist whacko is counseled for arguing with veterans who’ve been assigned to his care? And he’s not removed from duty? What planet does the Army live on?

Now when a Dem criticizes the Army he's un-American. Or has eight months of Obama completely changed the military culture already?

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I guarantee you that the Obama administration’s non-response to the Ft. Hood attack will mock the memory of our dead.

And what qualifies as a non-response? A lone gunman lies in a coma. Is the President supposed top go down there and pull the plug himself? This guy says the President will not act, but in this case what is he supposed to do? Build internment camps?

Chimera · 11-07-2009, 06:45 AM

I am sick and tired of people using the "9/11" thing to describe a tragic event that will never reach the level of violence and horror on September 11th. THAT's the ultimate disgrace for the people who lost their lives that day.

Yes, it was a terrorist act. But stop with the 9/11 thing, please.

9/11 is 9/11. Otherwise poeple will start calling their own little 9/11s whenever they feel it's comparable.

erebusjr · 11-07-2009, 06:46 AM

I am not silently laughing

Player · 11-07-2009, 07:12 AM

Unfortunately the terrorist has achieved way more than just killing the soldiers; He has fed the ignorant mass with more of unneeded Islamophobia, as well as giving the actual Islamophobists an opportunity to jack off all around.

one-niner · 11-07-2009, 07:39 AM

I agree that the 9/11 analogy is often misused, but so is the term terrorist. Is anything known about the shooter's mental state or goal (if any)?

Sand Man · 11-07-2009, 07:42 AM

CJ sums it up pretty well ....

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Originally Posted by California Joe

From what I've read and heard about this joker it looks to me as if...

-He was happy enough to get six years of high quality training in his vocation at the militaries expense.
-He was never very "pro military".
-He was deeply effected by the stories told to him by his PTSD patients.
-He was a coward that did not want to be deployed in harms way.
-He used his religion as a crutch or an excuse.
-The closer he got to deployment the more he retreated inwardly and the more radicalized he got.
-He was allowed to basically meltdown for months in front of other officers, enlisted members and superiors and no one thought to raise an alarm that this guy might not be wrapped too tight and could become a threat to himself and others.

JMO.

one-niner · 11-07-2009, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sand Man

CJ sums it up pretty well ....

Thanks. Seems to me it was more a case of going postal than an act of terrorism.

Sand Man · 11-07-2009, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by one-niner

Thanks. Seems to me it was more a case of going postal than an act of terrorism.

Authorities are digging on that bit and other folks are catching on. We'll all probably know the outcome sooner or later.

Redox · 11-07-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by one-niner

Thanks. Seems to me it was more a case of going postal than an act of terrorism.

From what I read he was also a very silent type, with no woman or friends, living in a small flat.
Seems to me a nut job like these school shooters, and that combined with radical muslim ideology. To use him as an example for muslims is like using this Cho guy from Virginia tech as an example for asians or the columbine guys as example for white youths.

Still it could be true that PC played a role in not approaching this guy when he got more and more nuts.

Red-Phos · 11-07-2009, 07:59 AM

Fort Hood's 9/11.......Shut up you cock.

Red-Phos · 11-07-2009, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chimera

I am sick and tired of people using the "9/11" thing to describe a tragic event that will never reach the level of violence and horror on September 11th. THAT's the ultimate disgrace for the people who lost their lives that day.

Yes, it was a terrorist act. But stop with the 9/11 thing, please.

9/11 is 9/11. Otherwise poeple will start calling their own little 9/11s whenever they feel it's comparable.

Agree 100%

N-G-F-O · 11-07-2009, 08:05 AM

The point has already been raised, so stop stirring the pot. Remember what has happened and try to stay respectul, eh.

Assyrian_81 · 11-07-2009, 08:08 AM

The problem is that majority of the muslim world are against america and they say that the western world is killing many muslim etc. I just want to say that if USA and its allies where against the muslim world, there would be not many muslims left on this earth because they have the power. What the muslim world have forgotten is when they had some power they killed alot of people who did not convert to islam, I should now many of our people vanished, once we where in millions and today assyrians are less than a 1 million in ME. Sorry i kept it so far but what I am trying to say is that the fault is in the religion itself, where it supports violence etc. I dont want to start a flame war by this post im just angry seeing what that bastard did in a cowardly way. In Iraq every time the terrorist get their ass kicked by americans they go abduct an unarmed assyrian/chaldean and kill them just because they are christin like the americans. You just cant reason with these guys and thats because of islam.

11-07-2009, 05:54 AM	#1
Sand Man Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Siaton, Negros Oriental Posts: 6,793	Fort Hood's 9/11 Fort Hood's 9/11 Islamist terror strikes U.S. again November 6, 2009 Ralph Peters On Thursday afternoon, a radicalized Muslim US Army officer shouting "Allahu Akbar!" committed the worst act of terror on American soil since 9/11. And no one wants to call it an act of terror or associate it with Islam. What cowards we are. Political correctness killed those patriotic Americans at Ft. Hood as surely as the Islamist gunman did. And the media treat it like a case of non-denominational shoplifting. This was a terrorist act. When an extremist plans and executes a murderous plot against our unarmed soldiers to protest our efforts to counter Islamist fanatics, it’s an act of terror. Period. When the terrorist posts anti-American hate-speech on the Web; apparently praises suicide bombers and uses his own name; loudly criticizes US policies; argues (as a psychiatrist, no less) with his military patients over the worth of their sacrifices; refuses, in the name of Islam, to be photographed with female colleagues; lists his nationality as "Palestinian" in a Muslim spouse-matching program, and parades around central Texas in a fundamentalist playsuit — well, it only seems fair to call this terrorist an "Islamist terrorist." But the president won’t. Despite his promise to get to all the facts. Because there’s no such thing as "Islamist terrorism" in ObamaWorld. And the Army won’t. Because its senior leaders are so sick with political correctness that pandering to America-haters is safer than calling terrorism "terrorism." And the media won’t. Because they have more interest in the shooter than in our troops — despite their crocodile tears. Maj. Nadal Malik Hasan planned this terrorist attack and executed it in cold blood. The resulting massacre was the first tragedy. The second was that he wasn’t killed on the spot. Hasan survived. Now the rest of us will have to foot his massive medical bills. Activist lawyers will get involved, claiming "harassment" drove him temporarily insane. There’ll be no end of trial delays. At best, taxpayer dollars will fund his prison lifestyle for decades to come, since our politically correct Army leadership wouldn’t dare pursue or carry out the death penalty. Maj. Hasan will be a hero to Islamist terrorists abroad and their sympathizers here. While US Muslim organizations decry his acts publicly, Hasan will be praised privately. And he’ll have the last laugh. But Hasan isn’t the sole guilty party. The US Army’s unforgivable political correctness is also to blame for the casualties at Ft. Hood. Given the myriad warning signs, it’s appalling that no action was taken against a man apparently known to praise suicide bombers and openly damn US policy. But no officer in his chain of command, either at Walter Reed Army Medical Center or at Ft. Hood, had the guts to take meaningful action against a dysfunctional soldier and an incompetent doctor. Had Hasan been a Lutheran or a Methodist, he would’ve been gone with the simoon. But officers fear charges of discrimination when faced with misconduct among protected minorities. Now 12 soldiers and a security guard lie dead. 31 soldiers were wounded, 28 of them seriously. If heads don’t roll in this maggot’s chain of command, the Army will have shamed itself beyond moral redemption. There’s another important issue, too. How could the Army allow an obviously incompetent and dysfunctional psychiatrist to treat our troubled soldiers returning from war? An Islamist whacko is counseled for arguing with veterans who’ve been assigned to his care? And he’s not removed from duty? What planet does the Army live on? For the first time since I joined the Army in 1976, I’m ashamed of its dereliction of duty. The chain of command protected a budding terrorist who was waving one red flag after another. Because it was safer for careers than doing something about him. Get ready for the apologias. We’ve already heard from the terrorist’s family that "he’s a good American." In their world, maybe he is. But when do we, the American public, knock off the PC nonsense? A disgruntled Muslim soldier murdered his officers way back in 2003, in Kuwait, on the eve of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Recently? An American mullah shoots it out with the feds in Detroit. A Muslim fanatic attacks an Arkansas recruiting station. A Muslim media owner, after playing the peace card, beheads his wife. A Muslim father runs over his daughter because she’s becoming too Westernized. Muslim terrorist wannabes are busted again and again. And we’re assured that "Islam’s a religion of peace." I guarantee you that the Obama administration’s non-response to the Ft. Hood attack will mock the memory of our dead. source..

11-07-2009, 06:00 AM	#2
wagon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Australia - providing roughage to the world since 1788. Age: 33 Posts: 3,342	Food for thought. I sense a flamewar coming, unfortunately.

11-07-2009, 06:45 AM	#4
Chimera Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bordeaux, France Posts: 1,229	I am sick and tired of people using the "9/11" thing to describe a tragic event that will never reach the level of violence and horror on September 11th. THAT's the ultimate disgrace for the people who lost their lives that day. Yes, it was a terrorist act. But stop with the 9/11 thing, please. 9/11 is 9/11. Otherwise poeple will start calling their own little 9/11s whenever they feel it's comparable.

11-07-2009, 06:46 AM	#5
erebusjr Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 709	I am not silently laughing

11-07-2009, 07:12 AM	#6
Player Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 1,367	Unfortunately the terrorist has achieved way more than just killing the soldiers; He has fed the ignorant mass with more of unneeded Islamophobia, as well as giving the actual Islamophobists an opportunity to jack off all around.

11-07-2009, 07:39 AM	#7
one-niner Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 423	I agree that the 9/11 analogy is often misused, but so is the term terrorist. Is anything known about the shooter's mental state or goal (if any)?

11-07-2009, 07:59 AM	#12
Red-Phos Banned user Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Le diable marche avec nous Posts: 2,328	Fort Hood's 9/11.......Shut up you cock.

11-07-2009, 08:05 AM	#14
N-G-F-O Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: knuckle deep Age: 28 Posts: 512	The point has already been raised, so stop stirring the pot. Remember what has happened and try to stay respectul, eh.

11-07-2009, 08:08 AM	#15
Assyrian_81 Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 16	The problem is that majority of the muslim world are against america and they say that the western world is killing many muslim etc. I just want to say that if USA and its allies where against the muslim world, there would be not many muslims left on this earth because they have the power. What the muslim world have forgotten is when they had some power they killed alot of people who did not convert to islam, I should now many of our people vanished, once we where in millions and today assyrians are less than a 1 million in ME. Sorry i kept it so far but what I am trying to say is that the fault is in the religion itself, where it supports violence etc. I dont want to start a flame war by this post im just angry seeing what that bastard did in a cowardly way. In Iraq every time the terrorist get their ass kicked by americans they go abduct an unarmed assyrian/chaldean and kill them just because they are christin like the americans. You just cant reason with these guys and thats because of islam.