airsoft questions

hood · 10-08-2002, 01:14 PM

Edge, I noticed that you've got a lot of airsoft related page stuff in your signature. I've always viewed airsoft guns as BB or pellet guns that you'd use on targets or something, but it seems like you're using it like paintball where you shoot other guys. Is this correct and wouldn't that hurt a lot? Inform me!

10-09-2002, 11:13 AM

Hood:

you are correct. Airsoft is played as a war game. I play in the midwest every weekend, we either do force vs. force or some type of scenario with objectives and other fun items (props etc)

check out my team website: http://tacairsoft.airsoftretreat.com/
we have pictures & video in the gallery

airsoft replicas use plastic BBs that shoot between 200 to 500 Feet per second (FPS), depending on type of gun and the type of rules you have (for example, we dont allow more than 400 FPS at our games). It stings good, but doesnt hurt as much as paintball I dont think. With all the gear on most hits dont even sting. (you just hear a pop sound of the BB hitting nylon or bouncing off your gogges

)

cheers,
t

10-09-2002, 05:32 PM

so what do you guys use? gas or electric... gas being the similar stuff as paintball? i would assume the electric would be better since it's more consistent. what's a good website where they sell the guns you're using? I did a search for the Tokyo name one but didn't come up with much that was in english.

10-09-2002, 11:51 PM

We use gas pistols (the blowback versions kick back like a real pistol), electric rifles (full auto

) and we do run around and shoot at each other.
Gives us reasons to collect all kinds of cool gear

shopping:
www.infinityairsoft.net (US)
www.redwolfairsoft.com (hong kong)
www.airsoftextreme.com (US)

Player sites:
www.airsoftplayers.com
www.airsoftzone.com

news:
www.airsoftretreat.com
www.airsoftnetwork.com

I am lucky enough to have a walk-in store that sells airsoft about 5 minutes from my house, so I do my shopping there. They dont have a website for airsoft tho

hope that helps

cheers,
t

The Edge · 10-10-2002, 09:12 AM

Hood-

Trunkz pretty much explained everything.

However, I don't think Trunkz has been shot in the places I've been shot, by the guns people people tend to use here on the "right" coast.

Examples: Been shot around the mouth and cheek (from almost point blank distance) -- left some mighty obvious blood blisters for a week or two. Fun at work and in the general public ("Ohmygod, what happened?" -- "A bird attacked me/cut myself shaving/scratched too hard/etc").

Been shot with some pretty hot guns (I'd say 400fps *minimum*, here). Left scars/marks on my arms that still quite haven't gone away (even after almost 2 years).

Accidentally shot myself in the hand at literal point blank range with a 350fps gun (Was checking something, thought gun was empty, thought wrong). That left a big ol' blister for about a week and a half that hurt quite a bit. I'm surprised it didn't turn into a callouse.

People have had their teeth chipped and I remember one dude that got shot in the lip and the BB bounced up INTO his nasal passage. He eventually sneezed it out... pretty nasty. There's a picture floating around of a guy in Hong Kong who apparently didn't like the idea of wearing eye protection... Safety is paramount, especially with airsoft.

Personally I'm a bit leery about the sport right now, especially in light of the Maryland sniper thing going on. And although I can only speak for airsoft in my general area (which is the northeast), but it HAS been getting fairly political, player-wise. Some people are taking airsoft way too seriously and it is starting to get to into their heads that they are "the real deal". Very dangerous to the hobby and sport, overall.

Still though, airsoft is pretty fun and it gives a lot of people an excuse to buy gear. It's like America's Army, only more invigorating. And at least you actually get to hold a "rifle".

10-10-2002, 08:15 PM

Airsoft was basically started in Hong Kong by paintball fans who wanted more realistic guns. And since guns are illegal in Hong Kong collectors turned to airsoft .

What kind of guns do you guys use? I haven't gone in a while but I use...
M4A1
Mosquito Molds RIS
Surefire Flashlight on RIS
Guarder Outer Barrel reinforcement (lets me switch from normal to commando)
CA SOCOM Silencer
Systema m130 spriong (430 fps)
Systema Full Metal body
Guarder Red Dot Scope

The Edge · 10-10-2002, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan

Airsoft was basically started in Hong Kong by paintball fans who wanted more realistic guns. And since guns are illegal in Hong Kong collectors turned to airsoft .

Uh, are you certain about that? From what I understand "airsoft" actually originated in the 'States, manufactured by companies such as DAISY/CROSSMAN/etc., to replicate *as close as possible* real steel pistols. Until of course, they started to draw some rather negative media attraction.

http://www.airsoftohio.com/phpBB/history.php

Until it caught on in Asia... Japan, specifically. Everything I've read and everyone I've talked to (HK locals included) say nothing about HK being the "birthplace" of airsoft.

If you could provide me with some place to read up on the HK origins, it would be greatly appreciated.

10-10-2002, 11:13 PM

http://redwolfairsoft.com/new_to_airsoft.htm

Airsoft was invented in Japan and describes pistols and rifles that look, feel, and operate exactly like real firearms. Their shape, form, and trademarks are true to form, and almost all airsoft models are actually replicas of real world weapons. Civilian gun ownership in Japan is illegal and airsoft naturally found a large market of gun enthusiasts that wanted to own and collect their favorite weapons but were not ready to break the law for their hobby! As such, authenticity and realism is a top priority for airsoft guns and most manufacturers have licensed agreements with the real gun manufacturers to copy the real gun styles and use their trademarks. In fact, in many cases you can install real gun accessories onto airsoft guns due to their similar dimensions and design. At close range, it is extremely difficult to discern an airsoft gun from real guns. That is why some countries, such as the United States, requires all imported airsoft guns to possess orange painted barrel tips. In fact, airsoft guns are so authentic that many police and military training programs across the world use airsoft products for training purposes.

10-11-2002, 02:13 AM

I took one in the tounge once.....dont ask......several in the lip, girlfriend shot me in the tip of my nose (had a nice rudolph effect for 2 weeks), several in the ear, still have a scar on my left bicep from last weekend
haha. Those flight gloves have saved my knuckles a few times.

in the middle coast here...err, well no coast really, things have been going well so far. Politics havent played a big part in it yet...tho I wonder about some of our players

We've got a shop in town thats helped us so much in getting games going, and of course our friends at wildcat paintball have been so open to airsoft its unbelievable. After 3 1/2 years I finally have more airsoft to play than I have time for. we'll see how long that lasts.

With all thats going on up your way I would be concerned too. Big scenario game on saturday - I'm running it, muhahahah. You can fly out to st louis if you want

cheers,
t

[SAB]Grey · 10-11-2002, 02:12 PM

Wow I didn't even know any of this was out there. I need to get on the ball. Freaking looks cool though.

Judas-X[IMOC] · 10-11-2002, 02:33 PM

god damn, i'd be tempted to wear a full face mask or something like in paintball. It cant be fun to get shot in the teeth or lips. imagine one flew directly into your ear canal. DEATH! lol
but it definitly sounds like alot of fun otherwise. Oh ya i'd have to wear a cup too. I definitly wouldnt want blood blisters on my cack'n'balls.

10-11-2002, 02:56 PM

it really is a lot of fun, the best way to play soldier that I have found.

I wear full seal goggles (ESS Turbo cams) so my ears normally dont get hit anymore (cause the straps cover them). Also I usually wear a balaclava or shemagh

the face masks can make it hard to shoulder your rifle and get a good cheek weld for your scope.

t

10-11-2002, 07:07 PM

I usually wear a protec helmet and some bolle goggles under a balaclava

10-11-2002, 08:43 PM

well, what sparked my interest was the realistic looking guns. I can't see how carrying a huge oddly shaped paintball gun can really feel authentic. I'll have to see if there are any airsoft places on Long Island...

The Edge · 10-11-2002, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hood

well, what sparked my interest was the realistic looking guns. I can't see how carrying a huge oddly shaped paintball gun can really feel authentic. I'll have to see if there are any airsoft places on Long Island...

Well.

There's the www.neasg.net whom I have issues with (they've actually gone as far as to "ban" me from "their" events). But they're the only large scaled organization around here.

Otherwise, there are private games that are held over in Prospect, CT and Tolland,MA.

10-08-2002, 01:14 PM	#1
hood Hood \| booH Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,084	airsoft questions Edge, I noticed that you've got a lot of airsoft related page stuff in your signature. I've always viewed airsoft guns as BB or pellet guns that you'd use on targets or something, but it seems like you're using it like paintball where you shoot other guys. Is this correct and wouldn't that hurt a lot? Inform me!

10-09-2002, 11:13 AM	#2
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	airsoft Hood: you are correct. Airsoft is played as a war game. I play in the midwest every weekend, we either do force vs. force or some type of scenario with objectives and other fun items (props etc) check out my team website: http://tacairsoft.airsoftretreat.com/ we have pictures & video in the gallery airsoft replicas use plastic BBs that shoot between 200 to 500 Feet per second (FPS), depending on type of gun and the type of rules you have (for example, we dont allow more than 400 FPS at our games). It stings good, but doesnt hurt as much as paintball I dont think. With all the gear on most hits dont even sting. (you just hear a pop sound of the BB hitting nylon or bouncing off your gogges ) cheers, t

10-09-2002, 11:51 PM	#4
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	airsoft We use gas pistols (the blowback versions kick back like a real pistol), electric rifles (full auto ) and we do run around and shoot at each other. Gives us reasons to collect all kinds of cool gear shopping: www.infinityairsoft.net (US) www.redwolfairsoft.com (hong kong) www.airsoftextreme.com (US) Player sites: www.airsoftplayers.com www.airsoftzone.com news: www.airsoftretreat.com www.airsoftnetwork.com I am lucky enough to have a walk-in store that sells airsoft about 5 minutes from my house, so I do my shopping there. They dont have a website for airsoft tho hope that helps cheers, t

10-11-2002, 02:13 AM	#9
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	lol...edge I took one in the tounge once.....dont ask......several in the lip, girlfriend shot me in the tip of my nose (had a nice rudolph effect for 2 weeks), several in the ear, still have a scar on my left bicep from last weekend haha. Those flight gloves have saved my knuckles a few times. in the middle coast here...err, well no coast really, things have been going well so far. Politics havent played a big part in it yet...tho I wonder about some of our players We've got a shop in town thats helped us so much in getting games going, and of course our friends at wildcat paintball have been so open to airsoft its unbelievable. After 3 1/2 years I finally have more airsoft to play than I have time for. we'll see how long that lasts. With all thats going on up your way I would be concerned too. Big scenario game on saturday - I'm running it, muhahahah. You can fly out to st louis if you want cheers, t

10-11-2002, 02:56 PM	#12
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	its a blast it really is a lot of fun, the best way to play soldier that I have found. I wear full seal goggles (ESS Turbo cams) so my ears normally dont get hit anymore (cause the straps cover them). Also I usually wear a balaclava or shemagh the face masks can make it hard to shoulder your rifle and get a good cheek weld for your scope. t

10-09-2002, 05:32 PM	#3
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	so what do you guys use? gas or electric... gas being the similar stuff as paintball? i would assume the electric would be better since it's more consistent. what's a good website where they sell the guns you're using? I did a search for the Tokyo name one but didn't come up with much that was in english.

10-10-2002, 09:12 AM	#5
The Edge Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 18	Hood- Trunkz pretty much explained everything. However, I don't think Trunkz has been shot in the places I've been shot, by the guns people people tend to use here on the "right" coast. Examples: Been shot around the mouth and cheek (from almost point blank distance) -- left some mighty obvious blood blisters for a week or two. Fun at work and in the general public ("Ohmygod, what happened?" -- "A bird attacked me/cut myself shaving/scratched too hard/etc"). Been shot with some pretty hot guns (I'd say 400fps minimum, here). Left scars/marks on my arms that still quite haven't gone away (even after almost 2 years). Accidentally shot myself in the hand at literal point blank range with a 350fps gun (Was checking something, thought gun was empty, thought wrong). That left a big ol' blister for about a week and a half that hurt quite a bit. I'm surprised it didn't turn into a callouse. People have had their teeth chipped and I remember one dude that got shot in the lip and the BB bounced up INTO his nasal passage. He eventually sneezed it out... pretty nasty. There's a picture floating around of a guy in Hong Kong who apparently didn't like the idea of wearing eye protection... Safety is paramount, especially with airsoft. Personally I'm a bit leery about the sport right now, especially in light of the Maryland sniper thing going on. And although I can only speak for airsoft in my general area (which is the northeast), but it HAS been getting fairly political, player-wise. Some people are taking airsoft way too seriously and it is starting to get to into their heads that they are "the real deal". Very dangerous to the hobby and sport, overall. Still though, airsoft is pretty fun and it gives a lot of people an excuse to buy gear. It's like America's Army, only more invigorating. And at least you actually get to hold a "rifle".

10-10-2002, 08:15 PM	#6
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	Airsoft was basically started in Hong Kong by paintball fans who wanted more realistic guns. And since guns are illegal in Hong Kong collectors turned to airsoft . What kind of guns do you guys use? I haven't gone in a while but I use... M4A1 Mosquito Molds RIS Surefire Flashlight on RIS Guarder Outer Barrel reinforcement (lets me switch from normal to commando) CA SOCOM Silencer Systema m130 spriong (430 fps) Systema Full Metal body Guarder Red Dot Scope

10-10-2002, 11:13 PM	#8
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	http://redwolfairsoft.com/new_to_airsoft.htm Airsoft was invented in Japan and describes pistols and rifles that look, feel, and operate exactly like real firearms. Their shape, form, and trademarks are true to form, and almost all airsoft models are actually replicas of real world weapons. Civilian gun ownership in Japan is illegal and airsoft naturally found a large market of gun enthusiasts that wanted to own and collect their favorite weapons but were not ready to break the law for their hobby! As such, authenticity and realism is a top priority for airsoft guns and most manufacturers have licensed agreements with the real gun manufacturers to copy the real gun styles and use their trademarks. In fact, in many cases you can install real gun accessories onto airsoft guns due to their similar dimensions and design. At close range, it is extremely difficult to discern an airsoft gun from real guns. That is why some countries, such as the United States, requires all imported airsoft guns to possess orange painted barrel tips. In fact, airsoft guns are so authentic that many police and military training programs across the world use airsoft products for training purposes.

10-11-2002, 02:12 PM	#10
[SAB]Grey Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Bizarro United States of America Posts: 179	Wow I didn't even know any of this was out there. I need to get on the ball. Freaking looks cool though.

10-11-2002, 02:33 PM	#11
Judas-X[IMOC] Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Collingswood,NJ USA Posts: 6	god damn, i'd be tempted to wear a full face mask or something like in paintball. It cant be fun to get shot in the teeth or lips. imagine one flew directly into your ear canal. DEATH! lol but it definitly sounds like alot of fun otherwise. Oh ya i'd have to wear a cup too. I definitly wouldnt want blood blisters on my cack'n'balls.

10-11-2002, 07:07 PM	#13
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	I usually wear a protec helmet and some bolle goggles under a balaclava

10-11-2002, 08:43 PM	#14
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	well, what sparked my interest was the realistic looking guns. I can't see how carrying a huge oddly shaped paintball gun can really feel authentic. I'll have to see if there are any airsoft places on Long Island...