Radom VIS 35 / P-35(p)

[bas]

For Herrmannek:

Arguably the best pistol of WWII the Radom VIS 35 (continued as the P-35(p) in German service), is one of my favourite items in my collection.

Radom 35's are usually identified as 3 grades:

Grade One for the pistols manufactured prior to German occupation, these are of the best quality with the highest standard of finish.
Grade Two are the first series of Radom's produced under German occupation and are of the same quality but with a lesser quality finish
Grade Three these are pistols produced in Austria from parts that were taken from the Radom factory before it was overrun by the Red Army. These are of the lowest quality of finish and don't have the takedown leaver installed.

This pistol is one of the last Grade 2 Radoms that followed the original design. As production progressed, the Germans took steps to simplify the process.

[Catch22]

Thank you bas! Preety pics!

"VIS" is a specyfic weapon. I've never shot orginal one - as close as I got was the II'nd grade of your descryption so it was a P35(p). There's actually a IVth grade of "Vis" that can be spoken of - numberless copies, mostly cheap and ugly. I fired one Albanian copy - it was challenging both esthetically (laquered glossy black!) and in terms of safety (some non-working decocking, which almost caused an accident.

What can we say - clever but demanding construction. Heavy, stable, ergonomic, short trigger travel - very accurate. SA with decocking lever, two independent safeties. Feels just like good 1911 - but just better

And what's your "shooter" impression like, bas?

[LeMat]

Is it german version? I can't see an eagle on the gun.

[bas]

Originally Posted by LeMat

Is it german version? I can't see an eagle on the gun.

The waffenampts are to the left of the patent details, both on the slide and frame, the nazi proof mark is on the right of the patent, but is obscured because it overstamps the last number.

Under the patent is stamped P.35(p.)

[perdurabo]

Originally Posted by Catch22

Thank you bas! Preety pics!

"VIS" is a specyfic weapon. I've never shot orginal one - as close as I got was the II'nd grade of your descryption so it was a P35(p). There's actually a IVth grade of "Vis" that can be spoken of - numberless copies, mostly cheap and ugly. I fired one Albanian copy - it was challenging both esthetically (laquered glossy black!) and in terms of safety (some non-working decocking, which almost caused an accident.

What can we say - clever but demanding construction. Heavy, stable, ergonomic, short trigger travel - very accurate. SA with decocking lever, two independent safeties. Feels just like good 1911 - but just better

And what's your "shooter" impression like, bas?

there is also new VIS produced by Łucznik/Radom very high-end sold for colectioners in wooden boxes for 5 000 zł (?? 1$ = ~3,5zł)

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Originally Posted by perdurabo

there is also new VIS produced by Łucznik/Radom very high-end sold for colectioners in wooden boxes for 5 000 zł (?? 1$ = ~3,5zł)

Todays exchange rate is 3.1912zl per 1$, so the gun would cost 1566$

[Marmot1]

I put my hands on orginal one this year... the guy who owned it has around 60 of them- diferent versions...

Here is photo of part of his collection...


All rifles are Polish PRE war production...




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VIS , lot of them...

[Herrmannek]

ORGASM

[mr.x]

Cool!
Those are the most Radoms I have ever seen at one time...nice collection

[Howie Kaluha]

Originally Posted by Herrmannek

ORGASM

Yes!!

[CMEPTb]

Is it a 9mm copy of colt?

[Maciek]

Originally Posted by CMEPTb

Is it a 9mm copy of colt?

VIS was patterned on COLT 1911 but is not a copy.
VIS has some improvments.
VIS was produced in a small series in .45(11.43mm) calibre

[perdurabo]

Originally Posted by Herrmannek

ORGASM

x2!!
OMG so sweet babies i have seen few prewar mausers but all of them deactivated f* polish law f* F* F* !!
for all Polish firearms lovers:
http://hem.passagen.se/dadkri/

acording to this site:

Reissue Vis: Like Reissue prototype but with square sight notch instead of triangle and walnut grip instead of plastic. This model was offered by Z.M. Lucznik on custom basis. With a lined wooden presentation box, spare magazine and cleaning kit it's price was around $2,500

[Javehn]

Cool .
It kinda looks like Browning High Power . It has the same name as well .

[CMEPTb]

Found some info on it at http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg61-e.htm

"WiS vz35 stand for "Wilniewczyc i(and) Skrzypinski, model of 1935". Originally, it was manufactured in Poland by F.B.Radom factory.
WiS vz35 externally is very similar to famous Colt/Browning M1911 design, but internally it is different. WiS vz35 is a recoil operated, locked breech pistol that used Browning linkless (Hi-Power style) locking principle. Gun has no manual safeties: instead it has grip automatic safety (like the 1911) and the frame-mounted decocker. The lever on the rear of the left side of the frame is a disassembly (takedown) latch. Guns made for Polish military in 1935-1939 also had shoulder-stock mount on the rear of the grip. During WW2, some WiS vz35 were manufactured for German Military in Austria using original Poland made parts.
Original WiS vz35 were standart issue handguns for the Polish military. In 1992 the manufacturing of the WiS vz35 in Poland was re-started on custom basis (for collection purposes).
According to some sources (incl. Guns & Ammo magazine), WiS vz35 is one of the best handguns ever built. "