Israel to receive advanced Apaches

S'13 · 03-16-2005, 08:27 AM

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Air force awaits advanced Apaches
By ARIEH O'SULLIVAN

The air force inaugurated a new helicopter squadron at the Ramon base in the Negev Tuesday, but it has yet to receive its first Apache Longbow attack choppers.

These sophisticated and expensive helicopters are to arrive later this month from the US. Once here, they will seriously boost the lethality of the IAF's multi-mission aircraft.

The new squadron was dubbed Tzira, or Hornet. It was opened in a small ceremony at the base which has undergone massive renovations in the past years to accommodate not only the new Longbows, but also two squadrons of the new F-16I which have been arriving in pairs over the past year.

Israel signed the deal in 2001 to purchase nine AH-64D Apache Longbows manufactured by Boeing. The cost came to about $500 million, which was paid for from US military grant money. The program includes aircraft, ordnance, spares, training and support.

The decision was made by then OC Air Force Maj.-Gen. Dan Halutz, who is slated to become chief of general staff in June.

The IAF says it still maintains the option to upgrade 12 of its Apaches to Longbow level.

The Longbow is an advanced, multi-mission attack helicopter and features fully integrated avionics and weapons and a state-of-the-art modem that transmits real-time, secure digitalized battlefield information to air and ground forces. The Longbow is the world's only fourth-generation attack helicopter. This means it is the only combat helicopter in service with the ability to rapidly detect, classify, prioritize and engage both stationary or moving targets at standoff ranges in nearly all weather environments.
The helicopters are expected to be armed with AGM-114K and L "Hellfire" missiles.

The historic Hornet squadron, set up 50 years ago, has flown several types of aircraft, including the Ouragan and Kfir fighter bombers.

"At the end of the month the first of the Longbow helicopters, the best attack helicopter in the world, will land at the Ramon base," said Lt.-Col. M, commander of the new squadron.

"This helicopter gives us great operational versatility required for the changing environment we live in today," he said, adding that the attack helicopters have played an intensive and crucial role in targeting terror.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1110857201917

DeepSpace · 03-16-2005, 09:40 AM

One little correction. The Tzir'a isn't a new squadron at all. It operated the AH-64A for quite a time now, and its helicopters were transfered to the second AH-64A squadron.

NcDeuce · 03-16-2005, 10:41 AM

Everyone is upgrading to the Longbow. I read a report indicating that the Army is supposed to be fully upgraded by the end of the decade.

OMEGA7 · 03-16-2005, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by S'13

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Air force awaits advanced Apaches
By ARIEH O'SULLIVAN

The air force inaugurated a new helicopter squadron at the Ramon base in the Negev Tuesday, but it has yet to receive its first Apache Longbow attack choppers.

These sophisticated and expensive helicopters are to arrive later this month from the US. Once here, they will seriously boost the lethality of the IAF's multi-mission aircraft.

The new squadron was dubbed Tzira, or Hornet. It was opened in a small ceremony at the base which has undergone massive renovations in the past years to accommodate not only the new Longbows, but also two squadrons of the new F-16I which have been arriving in pairs over the past year.

Israel signed the deal in 2001 to purchase nine AH-64D Apache Longbows manufactured by Boeing. The cost came to about $500 million, which was paid for from US military grant money. The program includes aircraft, ordnance, spares, training and support.

The decision was made by then OC Air Force Maj.-Gen. Dan Halutz, who is slated to become chief of general staff in June.

The IAF says it still maintains the option to upgrade 12 of its Apaches to Longbow level.

The Longbow is an advanced, multi-mission attack helicopter and features fully integrated avionics and weapons and a state-of-the-art modem that transmits real-time, secure digitalized battlefield information to air and ground forces. The Longbow is the world's only fourth-generation attack helicopter. This means it is the only combat helicopter in service with the ability to rapidly detect, classify, prioritize and engage both stationary or moving targets at standoff ranges in nearly all weather environments.
The helicopters are expected to be armed with AGM-114K and L "Hellfire" missiles.

The historic Hornet squadron, set up 50 years ago, has flown several types of aircraft, including the Ouragan and Kfir fighter bombers.

"At the end of the month the first of the Longbow helicopters, the best attack helicopter in the world, will land at the Ramon base," said Lt.-Col. M, commander of the new squadron.

"This helicopter gives us great operational versatility required for the changing environment we live in today," he said, adding that the attack helicopters have played an intensive and crucial role in targeting terror.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1110857201917

the APACHE 's good things be? i think that isnt good be . because . if may i choice the Apache or made by japanese helicopter for example .
i'll choice of couse i'll choice japanese things. because . the one's able to assure with my driving technic. and more. not cheap . of because. i'll choice the japanse one.

S'13 · 03-16-2005, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OMEGA7

the APACHE 's good things be? i think that isnt good be . because . if may i choice the Apache or made by japanese helicopter for example .
i'll choice of couse i'll choice japanese things. because . the one's able to assure with my driving technic. and more. not cheap . of because. i'll choice the japanse one.

SHAM · 03-16-2005, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by S'13

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Originally Posted by OMEGA7

the APACHE 's good things be? i think that isnt good be . because . if may i choice the Apache or made by japanese helicopter for example .
i'll choice of couse i'll choice japanese things. because . the one's able to assure with my driving technic. and more. not cheap . of because. i'll choice the japanse one.

Straight out of a japanese/english manual

PhillyMobster · 03-16-2005, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SHAM

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Originally Posted by S'13

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Originally Posted by OMEGA7

the APACHE 's good things be? i think that isnt good be . because . if may i choice the Apache or made by japanese helicopter for example .
i'll choice of couse i'll choice japanese things. because . the one's able to assure with my driving technic. and more. not cheap . of because. i'll choice the japanse one.

Straight out of a japanese/english manual

Hmmm....wonder if Honda makes an attack helicopter........

webfoots · 03-16-2005, 02:02 PM

The cost came to about $500 million, which was paid for from US military grant money.

Does anybody know if it's true that the US military grant money can only be spent on eqiupment made in the US or by US companies?

Laworkerbee · 03-16-2005, 02:07 PM

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the APACHE 's good things be? i think that isnt good be . because . if may i choice the Apache or made by japanese helicopter for example .
i'll choice of couse i'll choice japanese things. because . the one's able to assure with my driving technic. and more. not cheap . of because. i'll choice the japanse one

Ok man well why don't you give a call in twenty year's after Toshiba roll's out their first Gunship, until then STFU

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platform389 · 03-16-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OMEGA7

the APACHE 's good things be? i think that isnt good be . because . if may i choice the Apache or made by japanese helicopter for example .
i'll choice of couse i'll choice japanese things. because . the one's able to assure with my driving technic. and more. not cheap . of because. i'll choice the japanse one.

I think this MIGHT be what he is talking about.

http://www.harpoonhq.com/encyclopedi...wasaki_oh1.htm
http://homepage2.nifty.com/oh1ninja/index_e.html
http://www55.tok2.com/home/oh1ninja/...OH-1_03_1a.jpg

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The OH-1 is an armed reconnaissance helicopter developed by a team headed by Kawasaki for the Japanese Ground Self Defence Force. The design features the tandem seating arrangement that is standard for this class of aircraft. A pair Mitsubishi TS1-10QT turboshaft engines drive the four balded main rotor and eight bladed shrouded tail rotor. The first prototype flew in 1996 with the first production aircraft delivered to the JGSDF in 2000. The stub wings can carry self defence air to air missiles or fuel tanks. The OH-1 was offered to meet the JGSDF requirement for an attack helicopter but the AH-64D Apache was selected instead.

DeepSpace · 03-16-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by webfoots

The cost came to about $500 million, which was paid for from US military grant money.

Does anybody know if it's true that the US military grant money can only be spent on eqiupment made in the US or by US companies?

Yes, i can only be spent on equipment made in the US, by American companies or a co-developed/manufactured by Israeli and American companies.

SeanAshi · 03-16-2005, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by S'13

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Air force awaits advanced Apaches
By ARIEH O'SULLIVAN

The air force inaugurated a new helicopter squadron at the Ramon base in the Negev Tuesday, but it has yet to receive its first Apache Longbow attack choppers.

These sophisticated and expensive helicopters are to arrive later this month from the US. Once here, they will seriously boost the lethality of the IAF's multi-mission aircraft.

The new squadron was dubbed Tzira, or Hornet. It was opened in a small ceremony at the base which has undergone massive renovations in the past years to accommodate not only the new Longbows, but also two squadrons of the new F-16I which have been arriving in pairs over the past year.

Israel signed the deal in 2001 to purchase nine AH-64D Apache Longbows manufactured by Boeing. The cost came to about $500 million, which was paid for from US military grant money. The program includes aircraft, ordnance, spares, training and support.

The decision was made by then OC Air Force Maj.-Gen. Dan Halutz, who is slated to become chief of general staff in June.

The IAF says it still maintains the option to upgrade 12 of its Apaches to Longbow level.

The Longbow is an advanced, multi-mission attack helicopter and features fully integrated avionics and weapons and a state-of-the-art modem that transmits real-time, secure digitalized battlefield information to air and ground forces. The Longbow is the world's only fourth-generation attack helicopter. This means it is the only combat helicopter in service with the ability to rapidly detect, classify, prioritize and engage both stationary or moving targets at standoff ranges in nearly all weather environments.
The helicopters are expected to be armed with AGM-114K and L "Hellfire" missiles.

The historic Hornet squadron, set up 50 years ago, has flown several types of aircraft, including the Ouragan and Kfir fighter bombers.

"At the end of the month the first of the Longbow helicopters, the best attack helicopter in the world, will land at the Ramon base," said Lt.-Col. M, commander of the new squadron.

"This helicopter gives us great operational versatility required for the changing environment we live in today," he said, adding that the attack helicopters have played an intensive and crucial role in targeting terror.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1110857201917

Make sure Hamas gets this message as well.

Ratamacue · 03-16-2005, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyMobster

Hmmm....wonder if Honda makes an attack helicopter........

Kawasaki makes the XOH-1 (Light Attack/Recon Helicopter)

03-16-2005, 09:40 AM	#2
DeepSpace Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Israel Age: 21 Posts: 347	One little correction. The Tzir'a isn't a new squadron at all. It operated the AH-64A for quite a time now, and its helicopters were transfered to the second AH-64A squadron.

03-16-2005, 10:41 AM	#3
NcDeuce Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: USA Posts: 4,810	Everyone is upgrading to the Longbow. I read a report indicating that the Army is supposed to be fully upgraded by the end of the decade.

03-16-2005, 02:02 PM	#8
webfoots Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 67	The cost came to about $500 million, which was paid for from US military grant money. Does anybody know if it's true that the US military grant money can only be spent on eqiupment made in the US or by US companies?