uk weapon designations

MARK.TIGGER · 04-07-2006, 05:32 PM

L1A1 Rifle, 7.62mm
L2A1 Submachine Gun
L2A2 Submachine Gun (improved version of L2A1)
L2A3 Submachine Gun (improved L2A2 )
L3A1 .30 cal Browning M1919A4 (fixed gun).
L3A2 .30 cal Browning M1919A4 (flexible).
L3A3 .30 cal Browning M1919A4 (fixed)
L3A4 .30 cal Browning M1919A4 (flexible), as for L3A3.
L4A1 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion with Mk I bipod & steel barrel.
L4A2 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion w/ lightened bipod, steel barrel.
L4A3 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion of Mk II Bren (prior L4A1 & L4A2 were converted Mk III Bren)
L4A4 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion of Mk III Bren, one chrome & one steel barrel .
L4A5 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion (ex-Mk III) w/ 2 steel barrels, Naval.
L4A6 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion, upgraded L4A1 w/ chrome barrel.
L4A9 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion, with GPMG dovetail.
L6A1 12.7mm (.50 cal)Ranging Machine Gun on Centurion, ranging gun for 105mm tank gun.
L7A1 7.62mm Machine Gun
L7A2 7.62mm Machine Gun, improved L7A1 with revised feed mechanism and provision for fitting 50-rd. belt box under receiver.
L8A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, AFV; redesigned L7. Butt removed, firing solenoid.
L8A2 7.62mm Machine Gun, AFV, improved variant of the L8A1.
L9A1 9mm Pistol, Browning Hi-power, previously the Pistol No.2 Mk I*.
L11A1 9mm Automatic Pistol Kit (same as L9A1 but with accessories & kit).
L12A1 .22 Conversion Kit by Heckler & Koch, for L1A1 rifle.
L14A1 84mm Carl Gustav Anti-Tank, in Australian service.
L16 81mm Mortar.
L19A1 7.62mm L7 series with heavier barrel to preclude barrel changes.
L20A1 7.62mm L7 adapted for Helicopter, for use in pods & external mounts.
L20A2 7.62mm L7 Helicopter Machine Gun, slight variant of L20A1.
L21A1 30mm Rarden cannon for AFV.
L21A1 12.7mm [.50 cal] MG ?
L23A1 Rifle, 7.62mm Instructional.
L24A1 .50cal MG, Ranging Drill.
L25A1 Rifle InstructionalL26A1 Rifle Instructional, variant of L25A1.
L26A1 30mm Rarden
L29A1 .22 Trainer
L29A2 .22 Sportco Model 71S Trainer
L30A1 .50cal M2 HB DP (drill purpose)
L32A1 12ga Automatic loading FN Browning Riot Gun.
L33A1 .30 cal L3 Browning AFV Fixed Machine Gun, DP variant. 300 made.
L33A2 .30 cal L3 Browning AFV Flexible Machine Gun, DP variant.
L34A1 9mm Submachine Gun. Silenced version of L2A3 Sterling.
L36A1 7.62mm Machine Gun. Instructional skeleton model of L7.
L37A1 7.62mm L7 Machine Gun for AFV; special barrel for tracer. Mixture of L7 & L8 parts to enable removal for perimeter defence.
L37A2 7.62mm L7 Machine Gun, AFV, improved. Can be used on Challenger AFV.
L39A1 7.62mm Rifle, conversion of .303 No. 4 Mk I/2 or I/3 for competition.
L40A1 12.7mm Ranging Gun, used with Wombat anti-tank weapon. Also called .50 cal spotting gun, M8C.
L41A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, drill (inoperable model L8).
L42A1 7.62mm Sniper Rifle, conversion of .303 No. 4 (T).
L43A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, variant of L7, used on the Scorpion as a ranging gun.
L44A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, for Helicopters, Naval. Variant of L20.
L45A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, Drill version of L45.
L46A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, drill (Skeleton model L7A1/A2).
L47A1 7.65mm Pistol, Walther PP. By Manuhrin, France.
L48A1 37mm (1.5 in.) Riot Gun. Grenade Launcher.
L48A2 37mm Riot Gun, upgraded variant of L48A1.
L49 9mm DP L2A3 SMG
L50 9mm DP Sten Mk II Machine Carbine
L51 9mm DP Sten Mk III Machine Carbine
L52 9mm DP Sten Mk V Machine Carbine
L54A1 .303 DP variant of the Bren LMG.
L55A1 7.62mm DP variant of the L4A4 LMG.
L56 .30 cal DP variant of the L3 Browning AFV MG.
L59A1 D.P. conversion of No. 4 rifles for (Cadet use).
L66A1 5.6 x 16mmR (.22RF) Pistol Automatic, Walther, target. By Manuhrin, France
L67A1 37mm (1.5in.) Riot Gun. Arwen Grenade Launcher.
L74A1 12ga Pump Action Riot Gun.
L81A1 7.62mm Cadet Target Rifle, version of the Parker Hale M82 sniper rifle.
L85A1 5.56mm Individual Weapon (SA 80)
L85A2 5.56mm Individual Weapon (SA 80)Improved version.
L86A1 5.56mm Light Support Weapon, LMG version of L85, with bipod.
L89A1 9mm Instructional Automatic Pistol.
L90A1 9mm Submachine Gun.
L94A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, Chain. Hughes EX34 chain gun
L95A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, Chain.
L96A1 7.62mm Sniper Rifle, Acc.Intn'l. 700m iron sight, 6x42 Schmidt & Bender scope. SAS silenced model, sub-sonic ammo.
L98A1 5.56mm Cadet General Purpose rifle. Manually operated single-shot version of L85A1 EWS.
L102A1 Pistol, Automatic (Walther P5 Compact)
L103 DP L85 (SA 80)
L115 .338-in. Accuracy International Sniper Rifle
L119 5.56mm Diemaco Light Support Weapon (M16 type rifle)

thanks to ARRSE site

DeltaWhisky58 · 04-07-2006, 05:51 PM

L119A1 is actually the Diemaco C8SFW which is the Canadian heavy barrelled equivalent to the Colt M4 - this is used by Brit SF and other specialist units and may be fitted with the same H&K AG36 Grenade Launcher as used on the L85A1UGL.

Steve Andrews · 04-07-2006, 06:03 PM

some more here:

L80A1 9mm MP5K
L22A1 SA80A2K
L90A1 H&K MP5KA1
L91A1 H&K MP5SD3
L92A1 H&K MP5A3
L100A1 H&K G3K
L101A1 H&K HK53A3
L105A1 Sig-Sauer P226
L106A1 Sig-Sauer P226 with shortened slide
L107A1 Sig-Sauer P228
L108A1 FN Minimi
L110A1 FN Minimi Para
L111A1 M2HB QCB
L115A1 .338 Lapua Accuracy International AWM Sniper Rifle
L118A1 7.62 mm NATO Accuracy International AW Sniper Rifle
L119A1 5.56 mm Diemaco Special Forces Weapon

thatguy96 · 04-07-2006, 06:14 PM

Here's some that aren't on that list:

X17E1/E2 - British test models of the M85 .50 caliber machine gun, with different barrel lengths and domestically produced barrels.
L17A1 - HK 40mm AG-C for L119A1
L17A2 - HK 40mm AG36 for L85A2
L104A1 - HK 37mm MZP1 launcher
L142A1 - Bofors 84mm AT4CS HP disposable rocket launcher

Accessories:
L12A1 - .22 LR conversion kit for L1A1 rifle (made by HK)
L12A1 - 9mm BFA, likely for the Sterling or the MP5
L13A1 - 5.56mm BFA, likely for the L85 series
L5A1 - Tripod for the L7 series

East Scout · 04-07-2006, 07:31 PM

Whats the L mean?

thatguy96 · 04-07-2006, 08:10 PM

From what I gather its generally accepted to stand for Land force or Land, but I could easily be wrong.

Hydro · 04-07-2006, 08:50 PM

Our very own AIRBORNEJOCK has commented that there's an L110A2 now, with the sight rail on the top cover.

MARK.TIGGER · 04-08-2006, 07:46 PM

confused well the L119 is also the designation of the 105mm light gun used to fire single piece ammo th US bought it as M119.

L5 was the otomelara 105mm pack howitizer and the 76mm gun on the saladin the scorpions is the L23.

With the designator you also need the title

Rifle 7.62mm self loading L1a1 was our old friend the SLR
ther was an L1a2 and an L1a3 for use in the Royal Navy as a gun line thrower

MARK.TIGGER · 04-08-2006, 07:48 PM

difference between L20a1 and L20a2 is one feeds from the left one feeds from the right

thatguy96 · 04-08-2006, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MARK.TIGGER

confused well the L119 is also the designation of the 105mm light gun used to fire single piece ammo th US bought it as M119.

L5 was the otomelara 105mm pack howitizer and the 76mm gun on the saladin the scorpions is the L23.

With the designator you also need the title

Rifle 7.62mm self loading L1a1 was our old friend the SLR
ther was an L1a2 and an L1a3 for use in the Royal Navy as a gun line thrower

Yeah, this is the case with US Army and US Navy designations as well. Each specific type of equipment has its own seperate hierarchy.

EsoognomEhT · 04-08-2006, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydroquip

Our very own AIRBORNEJOCK has commented that there's an L110A2 now, with the sight rail on the top cover.

Minimi with the para stock and shortened 'Commando' barrel

Apparently. (I'm not a ****ing spotter btw!)

Geezah · 04-09-2006, 01:02 AM

Is there such a thing as a semi-auto SA80?

thatguy96 · 04-09-2006, 01:21 AM

Where would the market have been for such a weapon?

DeltaWhisky58 · 04-09-2006, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geezah

Is there such a thing as a semi-auto SA80?

Prior to the post-Hungerford semi-auto weapons ban, Enfield were marketing a semi-auto only version of the L85A1 to the civilian market, but it was prohibitively expensive and I never heard of any being bought in any numbers. Of course all would have long since been destroyed.

martinexsquaddie · 04-09-2006, 06:13 AM

theres apprantly 80 sitting in an armoury somewhere possible police issue?
a civillian version or even a cadet rifle.
semi auto rifles were legal until hungerford.
and the sa80a1 was an excellant range rifle very accurate and easy to handle.
had some advantages for police issue compact and easy to transport but at the time the police were going for 9mm carbines they now retooled with the g36
so the semi auto was built

04-07-2006, 05:32 PM	#1
MARK.TIGGER Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,841	uk weapon designations L1A1 Rifle, 7.62mm L2A1 Submachine Gun L2A2 Submachine Gun (improved version of L2A1) L2A3 Submachine Gun (improved L2A2 ) L3A1 .30 cal Browning M1919A4 (fixed gun). L3A2 .30 cal Browning M1919A4 (flexible). L3A3 .30 cal Browning M1919A4 (fixed) L3A4 .30 cal Browning M1919A4 (flexible), as for L3A3. L4A1 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion with Mk I bipod & steel barrel. L4A2 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion w/ lightened bipod, steel barrel. L4A3 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion of Mk II Bren (prior L4A1 & L4A2 were converted Mk III Bren) L4A4 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion of Mk III Bren, one chrome & one steel barrel . L4A5 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion (ex-Mk III) w/ 2 steel barrels, Naval. L4A6 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion, upgraded L4A1 w/ chrome barrel. L4A9 7.62mm Bren LMG conversion, with GPMG dovetail. L6A1 12.7mm (.50 cal)Ranging Machine Gun on Centurion, ranging gun for 105mm tank gun. L7A1 7.62mm Machine Gun L7A2 7.62mm Machine Gun, improved L7A1 with revised feed mechanism and provision for fitting 50-rd. belt box under receiver. L8A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, AFV; redesigned L7. Butt removed, firing solenoid. L8A2 7.62mm Machine Gun, AFV, improved variant of the L8A1. L9A1 9mm Pistol, Browning Hi-power, previously the Pistol No.2 Mk I*. L11A1 9mm Automatic Pistol Kit (same as L9A1 but with accessories & kit). L12A1 .22 Conversion Kit by Heckler & Koch, for L1A1 rifle. L14A1 84mm Carl Gustav Anti-Tank, in Australian service. L16 81mm Mortar. L19A1 7.62mm L7 series with heavier barrel to preclude barrel changes. L20A1 7.62mm L7 adapted for Helicopter, for use in pods & external mounts. L20A2 7.62mm L7 Helicopter Machine Gun, slight variant of L20A1. L21A1 30mm Rarden cannon for AFV. L21A1 12.7mm [.50 cal] MG ? L23A1 Rifle, 7.62mm Instructional. L24A1 .50cal MG, Ranging Drill. L25A1 Rifle InstructionalL26A1 Rifle Instructional, variant of L25A1. L26A1 30mm Rarden L29A1 .22 Trainer L29A2 .22 Sportco Model 71S Trainer L30A1 .50cal M2 HB DP (drill purpose) L32A1 12ga Automatic loading FN Browning Riot Gun. L33A1 .30 cal L3 Browning AFV Fixed Machine Gun, DP variant. 300 made. L33A2 .30 cal L3 Browning AFV Flexible Machine Gun, DP variant. L34A1 9mm Submachine Gun. Silenced version of L2A3 Sterling. L36A1 7.62mm Machine Gun. Instructional skeleton model of L7. L37A1 7.62mm L7 Machine Gun for AFV; special barrel for tracer. Mixture of L7 & L8 parts to enable removal for perimeter defence. L37A2 7.62mm L7 Machine Gun, AFV, improved. Can be used on Challenger AFV. L39A1 7.62mm Rifle, conversion of .303 No. 4 Mk I/2 or I/3 for competition. L40A1 12.7mm Ranging Gun, used with Wombat anti-tank weapon. Also called .50 cal spotting gun, M8C. L41A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, drill (inoperable model L8). L42A1 7.62mm Sniper Rifle, conversion of .303 No. 4 (T). L43A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, variant of L7, used on the Scorpion as a ranging gun. L44A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, for Helicopters, Naval. Variant of L20. L45A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, Drill version of L45. L46A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, drill (Skeleton model L7A1/A2). L47A1 7.65mm Pistol, Walther PP. By Manuhrin, France. L48A1 37mm (1.5 in.) Riot Gun. Grenade Launcher. L48A2 37mm Riot Gun, upgraded variant of L48A1. L49 9mm DP L2A3 SMG L50 9mm DP Sten Mk II Machine Carbine L51 9mm DP Sten Mk III Machine Carbine L52 9mm DP Sten Mk V Machine Carbine L54A1 .303 DP variant of the Bren LMG. L55A1 7.62mm DP variant of the L4A4 LMG. L56 .30 cal DP variant of the L3 Browning AFV MG. L59A1 D.P. conversion of No. 4 rifles for (Cadet use). L66A1 5.6 x 16mmR (.22RF) Pistol Automatic, Walther, target. By Manuhrin, France L67A1 37mm (1.5in.) Riot Gun. Arwen Grenade Launcher. L74A1 12ga Pump Action Riot Gun. L81A1 7.62mm Cadet Target Rifle, version of the Parker Hale M82 sniper rifle. L85A1 5.56mm Individual Weapon (SA 80) L85A2 5.56mm Individual Weapon (SA 80)Improved version. L86A1 5.56mm Light Support Weapon, LMG version of L85, with bipod. L89A1 9mm Instructional Automatic Pistol. L90A1 9mm Submachine Gun. L94A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, Chain. Hughes EX34 chain gun L95A1 7.62mm Machine Gun, Chain. L96A1 7.62mm Sniper Rifle, Acc.Intn'l. 700m iron sight, 6x42 Schmidt & Bender scope. SAS silenced model, sub-sonic ammo. L98A1 5.56mm Cadet General Purpose rifle. Manually operated single-shot version of L85A1 EWS. L102A1 Pistol, Automatic (Walther P5 Compact) L103 DP L85 (SA 80) L115 .338-in. Accuracy International Sniper Rifle L119 5.56mm Diemaco Light Support Weapon (M16 type rifle) thanks to ARRSE site

04-07-2006, 05:51 PM	#2
DeltaWhisky58 Avoiding Asshats, Lying Low Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hating MP.Net on-screen advertising Posts: 12,582	L119A1 is actually the Diemaco C8SFW which is the Canadian heavy barrelled equivalent to the Colt M4 - this is used by Brit SF and other specialist units and may be fitted with the same H&K AG36 Grenade Launcher as used on the L85A1UGL.

04-07-2006, 06:03 PM	#3
Steve Andrews Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,010	some more here: L80A1 9mm MP5K L22A1 SA80A2K L90A1 H&K MP5KA1 L91A1 H&K MP5SD3 L92A1 H&K MP5A3 L100A1 H&K G3K L101A1 H&K HK53A3 L105A1 Sig-Sauer P226 L106A1 Sig-Sauer P226 with shortened slide L107A1 Sig-Sauer P228 L108A1 FN Minimi L110A1 FN Minimi Para L111A1 M2HB QCB L115A1 .338 Lapua Accuracy International AWM Sniper Rifle L118A1 7.62 mm NATO Accuracy International AW Sniper Rifle L119A1 5.56 mm Diemaco Special Forces Weapon

04-07-2006, 06:14 PM	#4
thatguy96 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,332	Here's some that aren't on that list: X17E1/E2 - British test models of the M85 .50 caliber machine gun, with different barrel lengths and domestically produced barrels. L17A1 - HK 40mm AG-C for L119A1 L17A2 - HK 40mm AG36 for L85A2 L104A1 - HK 37mm MZP1 launcher L142A1 - Bofors 84mm AT4CS HP disposable rocket launcher Accessories: L12A1 - .22 LR conversion kit for L1A1 rifle (made by HK) L12A1 - 9mm BFA, likely for the Sterling or the MP5 L13A1 - 5.56mm BFA, likely for the L85 series L5A1 - Tripod for the L7 series

04-07-2006, 07:31 PM	#5
East Scout Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: THE LAST FRONTIER...ALASKA. Posts: 2,188	Whats the L mean?

04-07-2006, 08:10 PM	#6
thatguy96 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,332	From what I gather its generally accepted to stand for Land force or Land, but I could easily be wrong.

04-07-2006, 08:50 PM	#7
Hydro Honest, I'm not really a Pommie Git! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The four foot Posts: 10,564	Our very own AIRBORNEJOCK has commented that there's an L110A2 now, with the sight rail on the top cover.

04-08-2006, 07:46 PM	#8
MARK.TIGGER Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,841	confused well the L119 is also the designation of the 105mm light gun used to fire single piece ammo th US bought it as M119. L5 was the otomelara 105mm pack howitizer and the 76mm gun on the saladin the scorpions is the L23. With the designator you also need the title Rifle 7.62mm self loading L1a1 was our old friend the SLR ther was an L1a2 and an L1a3 for use in the Royal Navy as a gun line thrower

04-08-2006, 07:48 PM	#9
MARK.TIGGER Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,841	difference between L20a1 and L20a2 is one feeds from the left one feeds from the right

04-09-2006, 01:02 AM	#12
Geezah Gun Nut Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: "Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore." Age: 39 Posts: 12,244	Is there such a thing as a semi-auto SA80?

04-09-2006, 01:21 AM	#13
thatguy96 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,332	Where would the market have been for such a weapon?

04-09-2006, 06:13 AM	#15
martinexsquaddie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: defending rockall for the evil empire Posts: 3,590	theres apprantly 80 sitting in an armoury somewhere possible police issue? a civillian version or even a cadet rifle. semi auto rifles were legal until hungerford. and the sa80a1 was an excellant range rifle very accurate and easy to handle. had some advantages for police issue compact and easy to transport but at the time the police were going for 9mm carbines they now retooled with the g36 so the semi auto was built