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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: TX
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Fort Meade
Age: 36
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My understanding is that this is way less of a problem than the major media outlets (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CNN, ETC.) are making of it. There have been numerous folks in military leadership that are over there who have tried to counter the recent surge in reports with hard statistics, etc. (in the form of news appearances, radio guest spots, etc.). Bottom line, as reported, is that while some gang members find their way into the forces, it is basically a non-issue (infinitesimally small percentage), definitely not a crisis as the media has been portraying. Just my two cents.
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Pisswreck
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Hogtown
Age: 23
Posts: 10,278
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really interesting read, but im sure its not unique to the states
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filthy Lucre
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Locked in a constant battle with JPAC...
Posts: 6,993
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With the size of the American Army I'm not amazingly suprised.
But, how many people does it take to spray a gang logo all over the places they have been in Iraq? Not many |
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Juvenile member - stupid comments a speciality
Join Date: Sep 2005
Age: 20
Posts: 1,703
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The military won't let you in if you have any "gang-related" tatoo's. They have very strict rules about this kinda stuff.
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: somewhere on the map
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 938
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However, as mentioned in the article, there are those who are purposely exploiting military service for the benefit of their gang. When it comes down to that, even tiny numbers are troubling. Having spent some time working with a Gang Task Force after I retired from the Army, I was a bit surprised to find that the gang members trying to communicate between the prisons and the street were using clandestine methods identical to what is taught at SERE at Bragg. And that wasn't the only indicator of military influence. Some of today's street gangs are becoming very sophisticated and maturing more into an organized crime model than what is thought of by the term "street gang". And MS-13 ain't the only one that operates transnationally. |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: NO U.S. Military Rivalry, ALL branches ROCK!
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Gee, something smells funny in here??? Do you guys smell that?? Oh, there it is, its BULLSH.....T!!!!
C'mon, this story is so full of it it's unbelievable its posted! My favorite line by the media was used in the VERY first paragraph (SOME say)!! " highlights increasing gang activity in the Army in the United States and overseas, some experts say". Yea, "some say" this article is fuk...ing stupid! Yet another example of the media gone wrong. Are there gang members in the Military, sure. But do they get to play their "gang crap" in the Military? Not while they are on duty!!! Does it affect the militaries ability to do it's job, NOT ONE BIT!!!!! Just another "Superbowl" story. Nothing to report on so lets make up controversy. C'mon guys, it's how these guys "sell" reports. I love the authors title "Frank Main - Crime Reporter"! What a moron. Tell me again how the media is suppose to help the public??????? You can bitch all you want about DEMS or REPS talking out of the sides of their mouths (which they do) but do NOT leave out the media!!! These guys are so full of crap their eye's are Brown. |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Taliban Land
Posts: 250
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I remember when I was stationed at Ft Hood, the gangs were mostly in 13th COSCOM STB Bn. Never got involved with 'em though, but heard that a PFC was in charge, even over ranked the 1SG, who was in it too.
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Waywickedcool Federal Ninja
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: The Garden of Good & Evil
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Germany
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Isnt the gang problem going to be a much greater problem than any terrorism in the World to the US. I know there are huge areas in the US where gangs rule..and not the state. So funny... going abround, spending billions to fight in other countris and the at the home front nothing is done.....
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Waywickedcool Federal Ninja
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,237
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the reserves and national guard units may have this problem (because of the part time status), but not on active duty. they can claim to be part of gangs or talk some s%$t when off duty, but that "tagging" crap won't go far in active duty units. we see each other everyday and the chain of command won't stand for it and they won't hesitate to get rid of bastards that do that dumb s*@t.
the reserves and national guard have this problem because they only see each other a weekend a month and some of those units have very low discipline standards. the gang members are able to thrive more because being a soldier is not a full time job for them, but "banging" is done more often. now, there are gangs in all branches of the armed services, but it does not affect our overall mission. what soldier's do on their personal time while on leave back home (gang activity or other crimes) is not the army's fault. we will always have recruits with spotty backgrounds and it has been that way since WWII (don't think every soldier back in the old days were clean cut because they were not, they had alot of bad apples also). |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Taliban Land
Posts: 250
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Bugkill, were you stationed at Ft Hood from '96 to '98? The gangs were Active Duty, on an active duty post, in an active duty unit, the STB Bn, 13th COSCOM. Before ya speak, do your homework. I'm not picking a fight, but please, KNOW the facts, before you open BS from your arse. I'm active too, was then, and still now. I was at 'Hood, back then...
Consider yourself Owned! |
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Banned user
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: ...DW 58 is now in my gunsight....DIE!!
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...just a bunch of bored PFC's from the hood with nothing to do on the weekend. Get'em out in the field and sweat the wannabee attitude out of them.
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